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McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming
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Posted on 05/23/2007 7:26:44 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming By Nathan Burchfiel CNSNews.com Staff Writer May 23, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - A panel discussion on global climate change Tuesday found Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders. A cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, they agreed, is the most promising solution to "global warming."

A cap and trade system would involve limits or caps (lower than current levels) on the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions produced by polluters like power plants. But companies able to cut their CO2 output at a low cost would be able to sell their left-over pollution permits to companies facing higher costs.

John Raidt, a policy advisor to McCain, said during a discussion at the left-leaning Brookings Institution that the Arizona Republican is a "foremost proponent of carbon cap-and-trade."

Raidt said McCain supports a cap-and-trade system above taxes on carbon emissions because "cap-and-trade is a market-driven, proven way."

The position put McCain in league with leading Democratic contenders - Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, and former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina - whose policy advisors also participated in the discussion.

Representatives for the three Democrats said they all support a carbon cap-and-trade system.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mccain; mccaingore; mccaingwarming; mccainlieberman; mcfraud; mctraitor; rinomccain
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I wish he'd just retire.........
1 posted on 05/23/2007 7:26:47 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Congratulations McCain, you just killed whatever slim shot you might have had at winning the Republican nomination in 2008. How does it feel?


2 posted on 05/23/2007 7:28:06 AM PDT by John Cena
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To: Sub-Driver

It does get old.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 7:28:24 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Sub-Driver
Well, he's going to get what he craves most: Enemedia approval.

And in doing so, he will lose what he craves next to the most: The Republican nomination.

Poetic justice.

4 posted on 05/23/2007 7:28:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sub-Driver
Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders.

DUH...

5 posted on 05/23/2007 7:28:52 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Sub-Driver
"If there is a carbon cap, I'll make sure it's global and not just domestic."

Well, at least Romney brought that part up.
6 posted on 05/23/2007 7:29:57 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow, now that’s HOW many issues that he’s betrayed conservatives on?

Campaign Finance / Free Speech
War on Terror / Interrogation of Terrorists
Immigration / Amnesty
Globull warming


7 posted on 05/23/2007 7:30:22 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Vigilanteman

‘Well, he’s going to get what he craves most: Enemedia approval.’

Yep. McCain is a cult of personality, whose supporters are in the MSM, which in the end wouldn’t vote for him over a Democrat if you held a gun to their collective heads.

The only person that doesn’t realize this is John McCain, which is why he can’t be in the Whitehouse. Anyone that stupid is flat out dangerous as President.


8 posted on 05/23/2007 7:30:52 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Sub-Driver

McCain-Feingold killed any chance for hime in ‘08 as far as I’m concerned.


9 posted on 05/23/2007 7:32:13 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Sub-Driver

Looking at the Republican field and the Democrat field. McCain stands a better chance running against Obama and Hillary in the primary. So a few very subtle changes and wha-la McCain is a Democrat.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 7:32:28 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming... . . . . A little man with a lot of hot air...
11 posted on 05/23/2007 7:32:58 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Sub-Driver

Why is he wasting his time and money running for the Republican nomination? I am beginning to think he has lost it.


12 posted on 05/23/2007 7:33:26 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain Sides With Leading Dems...

McCain is a Dem. I just wish those that support him would admit that they are also Dems as well.

13 posted on 05/23/2007 7:33:50 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Sub-Driver

Arrrr Maties...global warming will bring the fierce hurricains and we pirates will have to baten down the hatches to stay afloat...Arrrr.

14 posted on 05/23/2007 7:33:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain sides with amnesty for illegals, global warming hokum, 1st and 2nd amendment destruction, and liberal judge apppointments. .....for starters.
15 posted on 05/23/2007 7:35:45 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: John Cena
It's odd to see the Rudy-McCain race. Not the one for the Republican Presidential nomination, but the footrace the two of them are running to see who can alienate the most Republican voters.

I thought Rudy was winning, but McCain's still hanging in there...

16 posted on 05/23/2007 7:35:46 AM PDT by hunter112
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To: MrB

Could have stopped right here in title.

McCain Sides With Leading Dems.


17 posted on 05/23/2007 7:36:24 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: HoosierHawk

Just wait for fifteen years. McCain will still be in the Senate and he will make Byrd sound like a genius.


18 posted on 05/23/2007 7:37:41 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Sub-Driver

This “cap and trade” nonsense is the basis of the Kyoto accords. It is just a worldwide income redistribution scheme. We have to pay the backward countries for their carbon “credits” in order to keep our economy functioning. It is such a scam.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 7:38:51 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: John Cena
Congratulations McCain, you just killed whatever slim shot you might have had at winning the Republican nomination in 2008

Nothing this non-principled opportunist does "kills" his Presidential campaign. He still maintains some type of support with the Republican base. WHY in the world is that?

20 posted on 05/23/2007 7:39:54 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Melchior

They’ll be vying for floor time. LOL


21 posted on 05/23/2007 7:40:06 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Sub-Driver

The cap and trade system depends on the “price or tax” that they level on CO2 emissions. The latest UN report said the price should $20 to $100 per tonne.

To put that into perspective, a new larger-scale conventional coal-fired power plant would emit about 4 million tonnes of CO2 per year.

If they are going to slap a tax on a new coal power plant of $80 million to $400 million per year, how the heck are we going to build any new power plants to meet growing electricity demands.

Answer: “You don’t get it, we are asking you to live in the stone age, or conserve your energy usage as if you were living in the stone age, you dummy.”

The same principle applies to every other new industrial plant.


22 posted on 05/23/2007 7:40:31 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“I am beginning to think he has lost it.”

McQueeg HAS lost it! And it is only a matter of time until he loses it big time in public, ala Dr. Dean. McInsane is old and unstable. Someone is going to push one of his crazy buttons in public, and he will explode.


23 posted on 05/23/2007 7:44:34 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: John Cena

John is about a close to being a republican as I am to being pregnant.


24 posted on 05/23/2007 7:45:12 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: Sub-Driver

McCain didn’t side with them...he is one of them.


25 posted on 05/23/2007 7:45:29 AM PDT by coon2000
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To: Sub-Driver
The poor fool. This is what happens when you think you have to untie the Algorian knot instead of just slashing through it:

1. Atmospheric CO2 increases in response to increase in global temperature.
2. The lag time is about 800 years.
3. Therefore, the current modest temperature between 1880-1940 could not have been caused by the current increase in atmospheric CO2.
4. There must have been a period of global warming starting about 800 years before the current increase in atmospheric CO2 that started around the time of the industrial revolution.
5. Was there such an increase in global temperatures? Yes, it was the Medieval Climate Optimum between about 900 and 1200 AD.
26 posted on 05/23/2007 7:50:44 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: John Cena
He was DOA..anyway.
27 posted on 05/23/2007 7:53:36 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Most Congressmen/women are excellent Bovine Scatologist's.............................)
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To: Sub-Driver

There’s a certain pleasure in watching McCain destroy himself.

He used to say this sort of thing and get wonderful coverage by the MSM, pretending to fawn all over him. Now he says it, and they ignore it. Only the conservatives notice it, and grit their teeth.

As for the MSM, they’re waiting for their next instructions from hillary. McCain is last year’s news.


28 posted on 05/23/2007 7:55:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sub-Driver
Even though he was DOA this is still a kiss of death.

I vote to kick AZ out of the union.

29 posted on 05/23/2007 7:58:49 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe he and Newt Gingrich can run on a ticket together.


30 posted on 05/23/2007 8:13:43 AM PDT by xjcsa (In memoriam...Jerry Falwell, August 11, 1933 - May 15, 2007. Enter into your eternal inheritance.)
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To: Sub-Driver

A cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, they agreed, is the most promising solution to “global warming.”

These people just don’t have a clue. Not a F’n clue.

And they are running our country.

Argh


31 posted on 05/23/2007 8:15:32 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: Melchior

What makes you think Byrd isn’t going to get more senile, retire or expire in the next 15 years?


32 posted on 05/23/2007 8:16:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sub-Driver
A panel discussion on global climate change Tuesday found Sen. John McCain's (R-Ariz.) staff agreeing with representatives for the leading Democratic presidential contenders. A cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions, they agreed, is the most promising solution to "global warming."

As if McPain needed another nail in his coffin.

Cap-and-trade is a SCAM intended to extend Federal Government and UN power over our lives, reduce our standard of living and enrich Gore and his friends. Why would anyone who wants to be President of the United States support a policy so damaging to the people of the country he wants to lead?

Go home John, your time has passed..

33 posted on 05/23/2007 8:25:57 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Sub-Driver

I think he is going to try to run with that idiot Bloomberg out of New York.


34 posted on 05/23/2007 8:26:27 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s lost his mind.


35 posted on 05/23/2007 8:27:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: JustDoItAlways
If they are going to slap a tax on a new coal power plant of $80 million to $400 million per year, how the heck are we going to build any new power plants to meet growing electricity demands.

As I understand cap-and-trade it is not a tax per se. You have to buy "credits" from those who own them via some sort of brokerage system. This means that Government (US and UN in our case) can "award" their friends with "credits" for doing anything they they view as beneficial to the environment - plant a tree and earn a credit, for example.

Isn't it obvious that this would lead to massive corruption and huge brokerage fees and would do nothing for the environment?

36 posted on 05/23/2007 8:31:34 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Why is he wasting his time and money running for the Republican nomination? I am beginning to think he has lost it.

Yup, McNut is just that, a real sick nut case. I suspect that after he looses the nomination that he will change party.

37 posted on 05/23/2007 8:32:05 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s dead, Jim (well...his candidacy, at least.)


38 posted on 05/23/2007 8:38:36 AM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: MrB

Supporting Presiden’t Bush’s tax cuts...


40 posted on 05/23/2007 8:46:35 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: willgolfforfood

He didn’t/doesn’t support the tax cuts?

He’s a Democrat, through and through.


41 posted on 05/23/2007 9:00:36 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Sub-Driver

No, I do not want him to retire. I want him to explode in a fit right on TV in prime time when he doesn’t get what he wants: the nomination. I can’t wait. THis time I hope they take him kicking and screaming off the stage. Popcorn is purchased, brand new popper sitting in the box waiting, and the cokes are on ice. Bring it on.


42 posted on 05/23/2007 9:27:10 AM PDT by twonie ( watch this space)
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To: John Cena

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE (in my best Gomer Pyle voice).


43 posted on 05/23/2007 9:33:13 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Looks like he can at least count on aRnold’s support in the California primary.. add him to the list of dems he stands with.


44 posted on 05/23/2007 9:33:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: aruanan

Please everyone view this presentation for clarification on Globull Warning. The facts you stated are shown here.

The Great Global Warming Swindle (2007)

1 hr 15 min 58 sec - Mar 17, 2007
Average rating: (609 ratings)
Description: What’s the truth about Global Warming? Global Warming is indeed real, but does it have more to do with the natural cycles of the Sun rather than Man-made C02? “We’ve almost begun to take it for granted that climate change is a man-made phenomenon. But just as the environmental lobby think they’ve got our attention, a group of naysayers have emerged to slay the whole premise of global warming.” http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/


45 posted on 05/23/2007 9:47:43 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: nanook

I’ve been passing this video (or links to it) on to people for a while now.


46 posted on 05/23/2007 9:51:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Sorry. I was so impressed with it I felt I had to pass it on also. Great minds think alike, Huh?


47 posted on 05/23/2007 9:54:55 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: nanook
Sorry. I was so impressed with it I felt I had to pass it on also. Great minds think alike, Huh?

Also look at what they have at www.CO2science.org.
48 posted on 05/23/2007 10:16:01 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: nanook
Of especial interest are these two: The first because it relates to something both McCain and Hillary were bloviating about; the second, because it shows that the greatest amount of net warming took place in the Arctic at a time when it could not possibly have been due to CO2.

1. Africa (Glaciers): What has been falsely claimed about them? And what has been determined to be the real truth?
2. Arctic Warming: Is It as Real and as CO2-Induced as Climate Alarmists Claim?
49 posted on 05/23/2007 11:59:17 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sub-Driver
McCain Sides With Leading Dems on Global Warming

He has good bloodlines....hard to tell now.

50 posted on 05/23/2007 12:00:57 PM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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