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Michelle Malkin has actual details of Immigration Bill: Gov. to Help Legalize Aliens in Every Way
michellemalkin.com ^ | 5/23/07 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 05/23/2007 11:19:42 AM PDT by Jacksonville Patriot

The comprehensive open-borders goodie bag By Michelle Malkin · May 23, 2007 11:05 AM

Chock full of enforcement tricks and illegal alien treats

John Boehner called the Bush-Kennedy immigration bill a "piece of s**t" last night. Yeah, after sifting through it the past couple of days, I need a shower.

Debate resumed in the Senate this morning. Yesterday, an amendment sponsored by Sen. Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) that would have deleted the bill's guestworker provisions was voted down.

Update: Sen. DeMint calls out the Dems' move to limit amendments from critics of the bill.

While they debate, here are 7 things buried inside the Bush-Kennedy amnesty goodie bag you should know about--plus more questions raised about the phony triggers and point system (all links referring to the bill provisions take you directly to the section in the 317-page draft bill released Friday night and published in online/linkable form by N.Z. Bear):

1) It includes Ted Kennedy's DREAM Act (Title VI, Section 611, Subtitle B)--a key goodie demanded by illegal alien lobbyists. The DREAM Act gives illegal alien students in-state college tuition breaks not available to out-of-state American students and legal immigrant students. The Dream Act would repeal a clearly worded provision in the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) that states:

Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen or national is such a resident.

Ten states defied that federal law and offered in-state tuition to illegal aliens: California, Illinois, Kansas, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, and Washington. The last time the DREAM Act champions tried to tack their scheme onto a larger immigration proposal, they snuck in language that would absolve those ten states of their law-breaking by repealing the 1996 law retroactively--and also offered a special path to green cards and citizenship for illegal alien students.

That's right. A key feature of this "immigration reform" bill includes repealing old laws meant to discourage illegal immigration--and then absolving all the states and the beneficiaries that thumbed their nose at the federal law.

Oh, yeah, that'll really help discourage border crossings.

2) It creates a new "UNITED STATES-MEXICO BORDER ENFORCEMENT REVIEW COMMISSION" (Title I, Section 138) that appears to be a Trojan Horse for more proxy meddling by Mexican consular officials hell-bent on undermining border enforcement and interior enforcement. Members from the law enforcement community will be balanced out by members from "academia, religious leaders, civic leaders or community leaders" (read: the open-borders lobby). Their purpose:

The Commission shall review, examine, and make recommendations regarding border enforcement policies, strategies, and programs, including recommendations regarding

(1) the protection of human and civil rights of community residents and migrants along the international border between the United States and Mexico;

(2) the adequacy and effectiveness of human and civil rights training of enforcement personnel on such border;

(3) the adequacy of the complaint process within the agencies and programs of the Department that are employed when an individual files a grievance;

(4) the effect of the operations, technology, and enforcement infrastructure along such border on the-

(A) environment; (B) cross border traffic and commerce; and (C) the quality of life of border communities;

(5) local law enforcement involvement in the enforcement of Federal immigration law; and

(6) any other matters regarding border enforcement policies, strategies, and programs the Commission determines appropriate.

Sounds innocuous, right? Well, here's a thorough reminder of how this agenda works in practice to undermine rank-and-file border enforcement.

3) It promises to create a database to track exiting temporary visitors that was mandated more than 10 years and has yet to see the light of day. Here it is in Section 130. Yadda, yadda, yadda. As I reported a week after the 9/11 attacks:

The U.S. remains the only major industrialized nation in the world with no centralized system for monitoring alien visa-holders. As part of a 1996 immigration reform measure, Congress mandated an automated entry-exit tracking system for all foreign nationals. But with bipartisan cooperation, President Clinton effectively repealed it and replaced it with a toothless database requirement that remains unenforced. Over 40 percent of illegal aliens in this country are tourists who overstay their visas. What good is an expiration date if no one enforces it?

The nationwide entry-exit database was mandated in 1996, sabotaged by special interests until 9/11, stonewalled again after the terrorist attacks, and just recently shelved by the again by the Bush administration because they said it was too burdensome and costly.

Here's a novel idea: Instead of using another promise to build this database as window-dressing for shamnesty, why doesn't Congress just do what it said it would do in 1996 and re-stated it would do after 9/11: Build the damned database, make sure it works, and make sure it is integrated with other DHS and FBI databases.

4) The requirements for proof of eligibility and bogus background checks for the illegal alien amnesty are a joke. Illegal aliens would be allowed to use the following, easily faked documents for their "Z visa" applications:

(I) bank records; (II) business records; (III) employer records; (IV) records of a labor union or day labor center; (V) remittance records; (VI) sworn affidavits from nonrelatives who have direct knowledge of the alien's work, that contain-14 (a) the name, address, and telephone number of the affiant; (b) the nature and duration of the relationship between the affiant and the alien; and (c) other verification or information.

Who would be verifying these documents as legitimate? Yeah, the same immigration/homeland security bureaucracy that is incapable of stopping the Bush administration-approved spread of bogus matricula consular cards.

Former DOJ/AG adviser on immigration law Kris Kobach sheds light on three more goodies (I've added hyperlinks to the provisions he points to):

5)"The bill effectively shuts down our immigration-court system. If an alien in the removal process is eligible for the Z visa, the immigration judge must close the proceedings and offer the alien the chance to apply for the amnesty. The wheels of justice won't just turn slowly, they'll go in reverse."

6) "The bill transforms the federal Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from a law-enforcement agency into an amnesty-distribution center. If ICE officials apprehend an alien who appears eligible for the Z visa (in other words, just about any illegal alien), they can't detain him. Instead, ICE must help him apply for the Z visa. Rather than initiating removal proceedings, ICE will be initiating amnesty applications. It's like turning the Drug Enforcement Agency into a needle-distribution network."

7) "The bill even lets gang members get the amnesty. This comes at a time when violent international gangs have brought mayhem to our cities. More than 30,000 gang members operate in 33 states, trafficking in drugs, arms and people. Deporting illegal-alien gang members has been a top ICE priority. This bill would end that: Under it, a gang member qualifies for the Z-visa privileges as long as he simply signs a "renunciation of gang affiliation." He can keep his tattoos.

John Fonte has more, including:

Faux enforcement “triggers”: The so-called “enforcement” measures do not require that the border be secure. They only require that a few thousand more Border Patrol agents be hired (not deployed); that about half (370 miles) of the already authorized 700 miles of border fence be built; and that a few other bureaucratic inputs are announced. Then DHS will authorize the second phase of the amnesty by awarding the Z visas. Can anyone imagine Michael Chertoff declaring that these phony “triggers” have not been met?

No real merit or skills-based (point) system instead current extended family chain migration is accelerated: The chain migration of extended family members will continue and be greatly expanded for the next eight years and only then would a skills-based merit (points) system supposedly go into effect. That is, if you really believe that after eight years a skills system would be adopted against strong business and liberal opposition.

Stanley Kurtz adds more about the point system:

As far as I can tell, absolutely critical details of the merit-based immigration "point system" have not yet been set. In particular, we need to know if there is going to be a "pass mark," a minimum grade under the point system that must be attained before an applicant can immigrate. We also need to know if the "pass mark" will "float" based on the scores of applicants.

These seemingly abstruse questions are actually of huge importance. A low pass mark could effectively obviate the purpose of the shift from family reunification to a merit system, allowing the same people who would have gotten in under family unification to come in under "merit." In other words, a low "pass mark" could turn the so-called shift to a merit system into pure window dressing. On the other hand, if the pass mark "floats" based on applicant quality, low skilled immigrants with little education and poor English skills would get a substantially reduced share of visas.

Seemingly small details in how this and other matters are resolved can have big implications. But as far as I can tell, we still know nothing about a possible pass mark, floating, or related issues. In a sense, the whole question is silly, since the family reunification policy supposedly being replaced by a merit system is actually going to be accelerated for eight years, by which time a merit system will likely have been gutted.

The Heritage Foundation lists the top 10 ways the Bush-Kennedy amnesty undermines the rule of law.

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Numbers USA notes these amendments to be offered in an attempt to salvage the unsalvageable:

* Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) - reduces the annual importation of workers under the bill’s guestworker programs to 200,000 workers per year;

* Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) and Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) - changes the cut-off date for reducing the “backlog” of family-sponsored immigration applicants from May 1, 2005, to January 1, 2007, and adds 110,000 green cards a year for adult children and sibling backlog reduction;

* Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) - imposes a surcharge on illegal aliens granted amnesty to help states pay for the medical and educational services such immigrants would claim;

* Sen. Cornyn - allows Federal law enforcement agents to use information from visa applications to investigate allegations of fraud in the “legalization” process;

* Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) - shores up the “trigger” provision to ensure that a crackdown on the border succeeds before additional job programs are extended to illegal workers and future immigrants;

* Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.) - requires illegal aliens to return to their home country to apply for amnesty; and

* Sen. Menendez - adds an additional 800,000 family reunification green cards for applicants who applied between May 2005 and January 2007 (this is in addition to the 567,000 already added under the bill).


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; crimaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; invasion; malkin; nationalsuicide
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1 posted on 05/23/2007 11:19:47 AM PDT by Jacksonville Patriot
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Read later, thanks.


2 posted on 05/23/2007 11:23:54 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

The 24 Hour background check on its own is absurd.

Me, a red blooded American with roots in this country going back to the early 1700’s, A card carrying member of the VFW, a law abiding, church going, flag waving, hard working taxpayer – has to wait 3 days for a background check when purchasing a hand gun. Yet a Mexican here because he broke the law needs only 24 hours for a Government desk jockey to look at his records.

What useful information are they going to find out on an illegal in 24 hours? There paper trail is already very sketchy, hiding from the Feds for so long. There is just to little to go on. I thing any law enforcement personnel reading this would agree.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 11:24:12 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Goodbye America if this passes.


4 posted on 05/23/2007 11:25:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


5 posted on 05/23/2007 11:26:14 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: patton; hiredhand; Squantos; sit-rep

FYI ping


6 posted on 05/23/2007 11:28:15 AM PDT by Covenantor
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To: bmwcyle

For later, too long to read now.


7 posted on 05/23/2007 11:28:19 AM PDT by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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To: NavyCanDo

“Me, a red blooded American with roots in this country going back to the early 1700’s, A card carrying member of the VFW, a law abiding, church going, flag waving, hard working taxpayer – has to wait 3 days for a background check when purchasing a hand gun. Yet a Mexican here because he broke the law needs only 24 hours for a Government desk jockey to look at his records.”

The only reason for the 24 hours is that they want almost all to qualify. No rocket science here!


8 posted on 05/23/2007 11:28:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Malkin bump


9 posted on 05/23/2007 11:29:19 AM PDT by VOA
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To: NavyCanDo

Short of an all out revolution how do we stop these pigs?


10 posted on 05/23/2007 11:29:35 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Wow, she is a tiger on this!!! Is this her issue or what?


11 posted on 05/23/2007 11:29:37 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Goodbye America if this passes.”

The likes of Hagel and Bush see “America” as just one vast market, which could use a 100 million new low paid consumers to profit their benefactors.


12 posted on 05/23/2007 11:30:14 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

mark for later


13 posted on 05/23/2007 11:33:55 AM PDT by VirginiaMom
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To: Shermy

“The likes of Hagel and Bush see “America” as just one vast market, which could use a 100 million new low paid consumers to profit their benefactors”

Bingo!


14 posted on 05/23/2007 11:35:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

like the man said, it’s a POS


15 posted on 05/23/2007 11:36:09 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Digger
Short of an all out revolution how do we stop these pigs?

I am totally exasperated over this insanity. I sill haven't read about Bush's reaction to the uproar from conservatives on this issue.

Is anyone in Bush's inner circle telling him that this will utterly destroy our Republic?

16 posted on 05/23/2007 11:36:26 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: Digger

“Short of an all out revolution how do we stop these pigs?”

Picket the offices of the politicians, like yesterday at Kyl’s office. We need a march on DC too!


17 posted on 05/23/2007 11:36:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The contents of this fiasco needs to be put on national TV in ads. The American people would go nuts if the details were made public. Exposure is what all these career politicians fear the most. They think of themselves as American “Royalty” in office for life. It’s past time to vote them all out of office.


18 posted on 05/23/2007 11:38:01 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: NavyCanDo

Tom Tancredo on Mark Levin last night said it was IMPOSSIBLE for the Feds to do a thorough check in 24 hours.

Bush and his RINO and RAT Buddies in Congress double-crossed his supporters with this thing.

The only Texas word Bush knows well is “double-cross.” He and his carpet-bagging family should go back to elitist Liberal New England where they came from and where they belong.


19 posted on 05/23/2007 11:38:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: CPT Clay
Wow, she is a tiger on this!!! Is this her issue or what?

She is wonderful on this issue. She has guts, that's for sure.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 11:38:22 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: paul51
BTW when you contact your representative via E-Mail they require you to give your address. Now, do you really think that they care about someones opinion outside of their voting fiefdom?
21 posted on 05/23/2007 11:39:20 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: sand88
I sill haven't read about Bush's reaction to the uproar from conservatives on this issue.

My guess is that he doesn't give a damn what we pesky conservatives think.

22 posted on 05/23/2007 11:39:21 AM PDT by SIDENET (Since Mexico controls our country, can I vote in their elections?)
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To: sand88; All

“Is anyone in Bush’s inner circle telling him that this will utterly destroy our Republic?”

You mean like

Martinez
Chertoff
Rove
Gonzales.

Bush hand picked his “Reconquista” stooges.

Bush knows exactly what he is doing!


23 posted on 05/23/2007 11:39:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot
tell me this from The Heritage Foundation isn't absolutely maddening:

Rewarding Illegal Aliens: Senate Bill Undermines The Rule of Law

You must read the content at the link, but here's a quick outline of the content:

...The following are ten of the worst provisions—by no means an exhaustive list—of Title VI of the bill...

  1. A Massive Amnesty
  2. The Permanent "Temporary" Visa
  3. Hobbled Background Checks
  4. Amnesty for "Absconders"
  5. Reverse Justice
  6. Enforcement of Amnesty, Not Laws
  7. Amnesty for Gang Members
  8. Tuition Subsidies for Illegal Aliens
  9. Taxpayer-Funded Lawyers for Illegal Aliens
  10. Amnesty Before Enforcement Triggers

24 posted on 05/23/2007 11:39:45 AM PDT by Swordfished
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"1) It includes Ted Kennedy's DREAM Act (Title VI, Section 611, Subtitle B)--a key goodie demanded by illegal alien lobbyists. The DREAM Act gives illegal alien students in-state college tuition breaks not available to out-of-state American students and legal immigrant students."

Bullcrap! So then American students are being discriminated against?

And why would any illegal student want to become legal if they are considering taking advantage of the Dream Act?

sw

25 posted on 05/23/2007 11:41:02 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (..._ _ _...)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

“illegal alien treats...”


26 posted on 05/23/2007 11:41:20 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: ExTexasRedhead

“The contents of this fiasco needs to be put on national TV in ads. The American people would go nuts if the details were made public”

The MSM will not cover it unless we picket the offices of the politicians. Kyl’s office was picketed the other day, and it was all over the news.


27 posted on 05/23/2007 11:42:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
It’s past time to vote them all out of office.

True justice would require most of them to be brought up on charges of Treason. The Constitution means NOTHING to 90% of Congress and the Executive Branch, and 4/5 of The Supreme Court.

28 posted on 05/23/2007 11:42:20 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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bookmark for later


29 posted on 05/23/2007 11:42:42 AM PDT by backinthefold (does this tagline make my butt look big???)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

bttt


30 posted on 05/23/2007 11:43:01 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I pray patriots in Congress can keep this treason cooked up by man-boy drunks Kennedy and Bush from ever becomming law.


31 posted on 05/23/2007 11:43:21 AM PDT by RodgerD (Mexico-Merger is Treason. Those who bring it about are Traitors.)
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To: sand88

I meant 5/9 of the Supreme Court... I too upset to think straight.


32 posted on 05/23/2007 11:43:54 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Just some thoughts on the subject:

There should be a vote immediately and that vote should be a resounding ‘NO’.

This abomination of a bill is the Camel’s nose under the edge of the tent, and should it pass in any form would be then dropped onto the courts for lengthy scrutiny and direction that should have come intact from the Congress.

Were these people in both houses elected to shirk responsibility?
Were these people in both houses elected to dictate, or represent?
Were these people in both houses elected to extreme POWER, superceding that which is the Peoples power?

When “Representatives” of the people resort to secret back room drafting of law, a ‘NO’ vote should be automatic.

Our Nation has laws existing that enforced would have prevented the problems we face today. Those same laws can still effectively resolve the problems we face today no matter the cries of “Mean Spiritedness” of the Leftists and the Illegals and their representatives.


33 posted on 05/23/2007 11:44:13 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Swordfished
They left one out...

11. Massive imprisonment of Border Agents who do their job.

34 posted on 05/23/2007 11:44:34 AM PDT by BigFinn (Islam= a caustic blend of paganism and twisted Bible stories.)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot
The Commission shall review, examine, and make recommendations regarding border enforcement policies, strategies, and programs, including recommendations regarding...

Border enforcement will be designed by committee???

35 posted on 05/23/2007 11:46:13 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I agree, it is hard to believe.


36 posted on 05/23/2007 11:46:17 AM PDT by mel
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To: Jacksonville Patriot

Keep the pressure on...this is scary!


37 posted on 05/23/2007 11:47:10 AM PDT by TatieBug
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Bush knows exactly what he is doing!

I agree with you. I am almost ready to join the tin-foil crowd. If he is truly aware that it will destroy this Republic, then he has violated his oath of office. We have been betrayed by our own side.

38 posted on 05/23/2007 11:47:30 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: sand88

Every word you’ve written is 100% correct.


39 posted on 05/23/2007 11:50:23 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Swordfished

A Massive Amnesty
The Permanent “Temporary” Visa
Hobbled Background Checks
Amnesty for “Absconders”
Reverse Justice
Enforcement of Amnesty, Not Laws
Amnesty for Gang Members
Tuition Subsidies for Illegal Aliens
Taxpayer-Funded Lawyers for Illegal Aliens
Amnesty Before Enforcement Triggers”

This is not treason?


40 posted on 05/23/2007 11:50:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: NavyCanDo
Yet a Mexican here because he broke the law needs only 24 hours for a Government desk jockey to look at his records.

A low level clerk with a rubber stamp is all it would amount to. There would be no "real" background checks, just phony baloney smoke and mirrors as usual.

41 posted on 05/23/2007 11:51:10 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Jacksonville Patriot
The requirements for proof of eligibility and bogus background checks for the illegal alien amnesty are a joke. Illegal aliens would be allowed to use the following, easily faked documents for their "Z visa" applications:

(I) bank records; (II) business records; (III) employer records; (IV) records of a labor union or day labor center; (V) remittance records; (VI) sworn affidavits from nonrelatives who have direct knowledge of the alien's work, that contain-14 (a) the name, address, and telephone number of the affiant; (b) the nature and duration of the relationship between the affiant and the alien; and (c) other verification or information.

So an illegal who enters the country after (big assumption) this legislation passes only has to make up a few phony documents, in effect creating a false history of residency, and *poof* they get a magic Z visa.

Yessir, that is going to slow immigration down..

42 posted on 05/23/2007 11:51:23 AM PDT by IamConservative (I could never be a liar; there's too much to remember.)
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To: sand88
NEWS ITEM 2008:

AMERICAN FAMILY KILLED BY AMNESTIED FOREIGN GANG MEMBERS


43 posted on 05/23/2007 11:52:23 AM PDT by RodgerD (Mexico-Merger is Treason. Those who bring it about are Traitors.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The RNC needs to take action before they’re completely irrelevant. They could produce the TV ads using their “war chest.” Covering for and hiding the truth for RINO’s won’t save them or the “Royalty.” Neither party will come of this untarnished. This issue crosses party lines.


44 posted on 05/23/2007 11:53:27 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Swordfished
Vote-hungry politicians are puckered up to illegals, pandering and falling over themselves to to give these invaders even more US government handouts---handouts that working class taxpayers will have to subsidize.

The US provides Mexico with the nuclear umbrella--paid for by US taxpayers. Mexico has no welfare safety nets, health insurance, and no Social Security system.

The US voting system is hopelessly compromised by illegals using fraudulent documents to register and vote. The Social Security system is being looted by illegals use multiple SS numbers---some even rent out SS cards numbers to get $3500 Earned Income Tax refunds Now illegals can collect US Social Security with multiple fraudulent SS cards, whereas American citizens have to work and contribute far longer than illegals before collecting.

Illegals here get paid under the table, don't pay taxes, and send billions of US dollars back to their corrupt country. A widely-used SS# scheme: the illegals name their anchor baby the same name as the parent. They obtain a valid SS# for the anchor baby; the parent uses it, no one checks beyond name-matching, if that.

Lou Dobbs reported illegals are stealing small childrens' SS# because a child doesn't use a number very often so it is near impossible to detect a stolen number. Dobbs also mentioned that business owners give illegals SS# of a previous employee (it is not a felony to give away SS#s but it is a felony to use them).

Another twist. Now illegals don't have to use rented or fake SS# because they've just been granted the right to collect SS if they have worked a short time (44 monthes I think), whereas we the American citizen has to work for far longer before collecting. Banks are kissing illegals butts with numerous giveaway ----everything from free money transfers to Mexico, lower interest loans, and so on. Illegals get loans; US citizens have to jump through hoops to get loans...................AND US citizens have to pay the penalties when illegals' default.

And what is the impact of the US Totalization Agreement with Mexico on the US Social Security Trust Fund? The Totalization Agreement would, in effect, ship our Social Security system to Mexico. It would allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the US Social Security Trust Fund. The agreement between the U.S. and Mexico was signed in June 2004, and is awaiting the president's signature.

Pretty soon US senior citizens will be on the Mexican "retirement system"---selling sticks of chewing gum on street corners.

45 posted on 05/23/2007 11:53:36 AM PDT by Liz (Rudy Giuliani: Guinness World Record for Having The Most Positions on Abortion.)
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To: RodgerD

What an outrage!


46 posted on 05/23/2007 11:54:27 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Digger

http://www.alipac.us/

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/legismgt/elect/recallprovision.htm

Unfortunately, we Georgians don’t have grounds to recall our treasonous weasels, but 43 states don’t have to have reason to
recall.


47 posted on 05/23/2007 11:55:23 AM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I phoned the RNC and expressed my views opposing the bill. The person who answered was sympathetic and agreed with me. I hope it was sincere.


48 posted on 05/23/2007 11:56:03 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: stephenjohnbanker
This is not treason?

Read the details - they are even more insane. People aren't joking when they say this could be the final straw. Three options remain if this bill passed:
1. watch a slow painful nation die
2. anarchy - because 'rule of law' is out the window
3. revolution - time to start over

49 posted on 05/23/2007 11:56:11 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: BigFinn
11. Massive imprisonment of Border Agents who do their job.

I know. When I realized President Bush will just let them rot in prison, I lost all faith in him. I have been sick to my stomach over this insanity, I have been losing sleep. I work long hours, pay exorbitant taxes at all levels and always follow the law -- for WHAT!! So we can have our leaders Balkanize our country, tell us we are bigots and racists, burden us with ever increasing taxes to support the free loaders?

I feel exactly how our Founders felt toward England!

Unfortunately, not enough Americans will do anything to stop the destruction of America.

50 posted on 05/23/2007 11:59:30 AM PDT by sand88 (q)
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