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States balk at cancer vaccine mandate
Yahoo News ^ | May 20, 2007 | SHANNON McCAFFREY

Posted on 05/23/2007 9:24:21 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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1 posted on 05/23/2007 9:24:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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"But state lawmakers nixed the plans after aggressive lobbying by religious conservatives, who argued that vaccinating young girls could promote promiscuity."

It's true madness when a kid may have to be taken to another state to get a vaccine against CANCER because some idiots are afraid of it.

2 posted on 05/23/2007 9:26:50 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Politicalmom

A drug company paid off politicians to push these laws all over the country. Our idiot Gov. Rick Perry signed up to “help” snd got slapped down.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 9:27:50 PM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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"A drug company paid off politicians to push these laws all over the country."

Does the vaccine work, or is it ineffective?

4 posted on 05/23/2007 9:30:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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Then, there’s this news about the cancer vaccine and deaths.....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1838854/posts


5 posted on 05/23/2007 9:33:30 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: KoRn

The vaccine works against 4 of 38+ strains of HPV that can cause cervical cancer. These 4 are said to be the most common. However, not every woman with those strains gets cervical cancer, and not every cervical cancer victim has one of those four strains.

In addition, as reported on another thread, there were over 1700 adverse reactions to the vaccine, including three deaths in young girls/women, and over 400 SERIOUS reactions to the vaccine.

To REQUIRE millions of innocent 11 yos to take this vaccine is to agree to murder a few. That’s okay with you?


6 posted on 05/23/2007 9:39:40 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: KoRn

Availability isn’t the issue. It should be a decision between parents and physicans though.


7 posted on 05/23/2007 9:42:45 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Politicalmom
"But state lawmakers nixed the plans after aggressive lobbying by religious conservatives, who argued that vaccinating young girls could promote promiscuity."

As someone who is both religious and conservative, religious conservatives are more and more ticking me off. The argument that a vaccine would promote promiscuity boggles the mind for so many reasons, not the least of which is that it assumes teenagers are doing a precise risk/reward analysis when they decide to have sex.

And what do these arbiters of all that is good and holy have to say about the circumstances where the woman does not have sex until she is married, but her husband has, and is a carrier of HPV. Should she be put at risk for cervical cancer to satisfy some kind of agenda? Or should we stick our heads in the sand and pretend that all religious people refrain from sexual activity until they are married? GAH! It's madness.

8 posted on 05/23/2007 9:46:13 PM PDT by cammie
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To: Judith Anne
In addition, as reported on another thread, there were over 1700 adverse reactions to the vaccine, including three deaths in young girls/women, and over 400 SERIOUS reactions to the vaccine. To REQUIRE millions of innocent 11 yos to take this vaccine is to agree to murder a few. That’s okay with you?

1700 adverse reactions out of how many vaccinations? Plus, as you say, only 400 of them were serious. 400 serious reactions out of how many vaccinations? Unfortunately, nearly all vaccines carry with them some risk and some people do die from vaccines. I had a severe reaction to the flu/pneumonia vaccine several years ago. Should it be yanked off the market because I was exquisitely sensitive to it?

I do agree that the determination of whether to get this particular vaccination should be left to the parents and physician because the consequences of non-vaccination are limited to the girl who has been denied the vaccine. For vaccines which carry some kind of public health threat (i.e. MMR), people should be forced to get the vaccine. The public doesn't need to be exposed to rubella because someone felt the vaccine was unhealthy.

9 posted on 05/23/2007 9:51:39 PM PDT by cammie
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PARENTS make the decisions for their children.

The government has NO right to mandate a vaccine for something that cannot be transmitted by sitting adjacent to someone in a classroom.


10 posted on 05/23/2007 9:52:30 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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Your utter lack of concern for children who are brain damaged and killed by vaccines is noted.


11 posted on 05/23/2007 9:54:04 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("ARREST ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM" Fred Thompson)
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Your utter lack of understaning that every vaccine and every medicine on the market, from penicillin on down, carries risk is also noted.


12 posted on 05/23/2007 10:01:10 PM PDT by cammie
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To: Politicalmom
The government has NO right to mandate a vaccine for something that cannot be transmitted by sitting adjacent to someone in a classroom. Which I said in my post right above yours. That does not change the fact that the "religious conservative" argument against the vaccine made in the article at the head of this thread is pure and utter bunk. We'd better stop acting like numbskulls or we're going to be laughed out of the political debate.
13 posted on 05/23/2007 10:02:50 PM PDT by cammie
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To: CindyDawg; Politicalmom; cammie

http://www.ahcuah.com/lawsuit/ussc/jacobson.htm


14 posted on 05/23/2007 10:18:21 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Judith Anne
"To REQUIRE millions of innocent 11 yos to take this vaccine is to agree to murder a few. That’s okay with you?"

I wasn't aware of that. In that case, hell no! I'll humbly take my lumps and flames on this one for not being better informed.

15 posted on 05/23/2007 10:19:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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Those adverse reactions occurred during the final research stage. I don’t know why the FDA approved the thing, it’s dangerous. And with that many adverse reactions, mandating it is criminal, in my opinion.


16 posted on 05/23/2007 10:19:23 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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We’re ALL going to die....sometime.....did you read the thread about diet and it’s connection to helping in lung disease?.....I’ll bet there’s a connection in cervical cancer too.....JMHO.

The medical industrial complex wants you to believe they can save you from every little thing in life that might make you die.....don’t buy it.


17 posted on 05/23/2007 10:23:34 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: KoRn

As someone mentioned, with all vaccines there are risks. Is there a formula the FDA uses to determine a drug is to high a risk?


18 posted on 05/23/2007 10:24:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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"Is there a formula the FDA uses to determine a drug is to high a risk?"

Probably the amount of campaign contributions vs reasonable saftey.

19 posted on 05/23/2007 10:31:38 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Politicalmom
Others were turned off by what they saw as heavy-handed lobbying by the drug's maker, Merck and Co. Critics saw a drug company trying to get rich.

That's got my vote.

20 posted on 05/23/2007 10:40:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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