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To: beckysueb
He believed in what he was fighting for. You don't go to war and act like that war is your fault.

If he'd said that he believed in what he was fighting for, it wouldn't have been as objectionable. If he'd just said "I desire Peace as much as you do; I deplore bloodshed as much as you do" and stopped there, I wouldn't object to that either.

But Jeff was way to into proving that his own hands were clean (when they weren't). There's something at least a little neurotic about that.

This is a guy who's way to into himself:

I feel that not one drop of the blood shed in this War is on my hands. I can look up to my God and say this. I tried all in my power to avert this War. I saw it coming, and for twelve years I worked night and day to prevent it; but I could not.

And this is a guy who's at least a little bit nutty at least by today's standards:

The North was mad and blind; it would not let us govern ourselves; and so the War came: and now it must go on till the last man of this generation falls in his tracks, and his children seize his musket and fight our battle, unless you acknowledge our right to self-government. We are not fighting for Slavery. We are fighting for INDEPENDENCE; and that, or EXTERMINATION, we WILL have."

1,134 posted on 05/29/2007 9:01:18 AM PDT by x
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To: x; beckysueb
If he'd just said "I desire Peace as much as you do; I deplore bloodshed as much as you do" and stopped there, I wouldn't object to that either.

Here's Davis on the Senate floor, January 10, 1861:

If you will but allow us to separate from you peaceably, since we cannot live peaceably together, to leave with the rights that we had before we were united, since we cannot enjoy them in the Union, then there are many relations which may still subsist between us, drawn from the associations of our struggles from the revolutionary era to the present day, which may be beneficial to you as well as to us.

I think, but am not sure, that Davis went back to Alabama for a period shortly before that speech and tried to talk Alabama politicians out of secession. If true, he was unsuccessful.

The South held out hope and were working for a peaceful separation until early April 1861 when news of northern warship preparations and sailings to unknown Southern destinations became known. The Southern Commissioners in Washington were mislead by words of cabinet member Seward in late March that Fort Sumter would be evacuated. Governor Pickens of South Carolina was similarly misled about the same time by Ward Hill Lamon, Lincoln's personal messenger to the Governor. Once the fleet sailed, the Commissioners called the words of the Lincoln Administration about evacuating Sumter "gross perfidy."

Before the attack on Sumter, the New York Times wondered why Davis and Beauregard had not already attacked Sumter before the fleet sailed south. The following was published by the NYT on April 12. I guess they couldn't or wouldn't see that the South had been holding out for peace until it was clear that a northern fleet was coming.

Why the Southern Commander, be he JEFFERSON DAVIS or Gen. BEAUREGARD, [their caps] has delayed pouring on Sumpter [sic -- tisk, tisk, NYT] his full force, and crushing it beneath an iron hail, if he could; why he has waited until, instead of concentrating his fire in security on one small point, he now has to defend a long straggling line [ten miles of shoreline], from a powerful fleet, it is impossible to tell. The reason may have been political; it may have been that there was not the vaunted readiness; it may have been incompetency; and it is not impossible that when the yawning abyss opened before them with all its horror, they may have lacked the insane courage required for the final leap.

Lincoln had to know that fighting would break out if he sent the fleet. I wonder what would have occurred if Davis had kept the fort supplied with food and instead let Lincoln keep his promise of collecting tariffs on goods intended for Southern ports, an act of war if Lincoln were interdicting foreign ships.

1,152 posted on 05/29/2007 9:03:22 PM PDT by rustbucket
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