[goldstategop]

Joseph Farah challenges amnesty first plan proponents with the truth that unless Mexico's system is changed, their citizens will come here in search of a better life. And why would those who break the law now agree to "play by the rules." All things considered, its more advantageous to remain an illegal alien and be rewarded than become an American citizen and assume burdens that go along with it like paying taxes and doing jury duty. Amnesty will never induce them to want to give up the benefits they now enjoy. Not dealing with the root of our immigration problem down in Mexico is all but certain to inundate this country with yet more waves of illegal aliens. But you will never see the political - er bipartisan criminal class deal with the issue as it deserves to be addressed.

Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[umgud]

umgud’s plan

1. Secure the border
2. Real interior enforcement
3. Employee verification, match SS#’s, etc. (no national ID)
4. Employer sanctions
5. Border crossers, visa overstays banned from reentry, felony 2cnd strike
6. ID required for voting
7. No education, non-emergency medical or public assistance to illegals
8. No more anchor babies
9. Expand citizenship based on immigrant skill/education (end chain migration)
10. Provide guest worker program with application from home countries

[joydoc]

.........................................TO AMERICANS

PLEASE TELL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO VOTE FOR THE AMNESTY BILL (CHRISTMAS) REALLY.
TO ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS TO MAKE A GARBAGE DUMP OF AMERICA.
WE HAVE PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY AND THEY, THE ILLEGAL ALIENS, WANT THAT MONEY TO SEND HOME OR TO KILL US.
THEY WILL BRING THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE STATES.
WHEN THE ILLEGAL ALIENS COME FROM THE MEXICAN BORDERS WHAT WILL STOP THE CANADIANS OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY FROM INVADING OUR SOIL?
WHERE ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THE PRESIDENTS MINDS?
A COUNTRY IS NOT A NATION WITHOUT BORDERS== = T. ROOSELVELT

[joydoc]

.........................................TO AMERICANS

PLEASE TELL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO VOTE FOR THE AMNESTY BILL (CHRISTMAS) REALLY.
TO ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS TO MAKE A GARBAGE DUMP OF AMERICA.
WE HAVE PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY AND THEY, THE ILLEGAL ALIENS, WANT THAT MONEY TO SEND HOME OR TO KILL US.
THEY WILL BRING THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE STATES.
WHEN THE ILLEGAL ALIENS COME FROM THE MEXICAN BORDERS WHAT WILL STOP THE CANADIANS OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY FROM INVADING OUR SOIL?
WHERE ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THE PRESIDENTS MINDS?
A COUNTRY IS NOT A NATION WITHOUT BORDERS== = T. ROOSELVELT

[joydoc]

.........................................TO AMERICANS

PLEASE TELL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOT TO VOTE FOR THE AMNESTY BILL (CHRISTMAS) REALLY.
TO ALLOW ILLEGAL ALIENS TO MAKE A GARBAGE DUMP OF AMERICA.
WE HAVE PAID INTO SOCIAL SECURITY AND THEY, THE ILLEGAL ALIENS, WANT THAT MONEY TO SEND HOME OR TO KILL US.
THEY WILL BRING THEIR FAMILIES INTO THE STATES.
WHEN THE ILLEGAL ALIENS COME FROM THE MEXICAN BORDERS WHAT WILL STOP THE CANADIANS OR ANY OTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY FROM INVADING OUR SOIL?
WHERE ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THE PRESIDENTS MINDS?
A COUNTRY IS NOT A NATION WITHOUT BORDERS== = T. ROOSELVELT

[Rottweilerson]

What you don’t seem to get about comprehensive immigration, is that people much smarter then you and the general public, came together (in secret) and worked very hard & compromised to write & pass this Bill. And if Pres. Bush, la raza, Sen. Kennedy etc... Thinks there is no reason to secure the boarder before the amnesty, well than by gosh they must be right!!!

[ModelBreaker]

Farah is right. The problem is the porous border. That problem is caused by a political class that, for various reasons, wants a porous border.

Close the border first accomplishes two things: (1) It closes the border--duh; and (2) It would a down payment by the political class to restore their credibility. That is, no sane person actually believes the political class have the slightest intention of securing the border once the amnesty plan is in place, no matter what the amnesty bill promises.

So if the political class is really serious about a comprehensive bill, first it has to convince me that they will actually close the borders and are willing to put the infrastructure in place to accomplish that. Once we are there, I'm willing to look at other issues a lot differently. Until then, it's a mugs game for American citizens to bargain for security and give up amnesty. All we will get is amnesty.

That way, if, as I believe, the political class intends to have open borders no matter what, at least we don't have open borders AND amnesty.

[freeangel]

Amen! Border security first!

[kittymyrib]

The question is: Do we want to destroy our country so we can buy lettuce that costs $.25 per head less?
Apparently, our President and the US Chamber of Commerce and the Democrat Party say “yes”.

[maiullo2]

Lets march on Washington. We won’t be taken seriously if we don’t act. Join the March
maiullo3@comcast.net

[gubamyster]

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