[magoo70804]

And what do the standarized test results show? Are the people of NJ getting bang for their buck or just banged?

[utax]

utah’s at the bottom of the barrel despite the $85,000,000 in tax dollars our multi-millionaire governor approved to educate mexican kids here last year.

and apparently there are concerns about TB in a Provo school thanks to an illegal. hear it costs a fortune to treat it.

[umgud]

Wow, those algore and Michael Moore movies must be real expensive.

[exit82]

I grew up in the area. Paterson and Passaic have been hellholes for forty years. High crime, drugs,corrupt governments,bad schools.

So the libs passed in 1976 the state income tax and a lib judge created the 31 Abbott districts. All hellholes. Some are so bad, like Newark and Camden, they had to be taken over by the state.

Tax money has been siphoned off to these districts, and property taxes are raised in the other districts to make up local needs not funded by the state.

Paterson and Passaic are old industrial towns that have ALWAYS had high percentage of immigrants going back over a hundred years ago.

80% disadvantaged, 22% special needs? Yeah, right.

And the kids are dumber and dumber each year. But it’s not their fault or the fault of the education bureaucracy. IT’S THE LACK OF FUNDS,YOU KNOW!

Hell the amount of money spent on NJ education is bigger than the GNP of about half the world’s countries.

Thirty years and the places are worse than ever—not only in the schools, but in everything. Paterson was America’s Arsenal of Democracy in the 19th Century(Civil War) right into WW2—the industrial base rivalled Detroit in his massiveness and variety.

A proud city brought to ruin by the libs.

But don’t worry, next year they’ll ask for more money, after all it’s for the children.

That’s one reason I live in another state now.

[SampleMan]

"New Jersey has a unique and wonderful education system," said John Donahue, assistant executive director of the New Jersey Association of School Business Officials in Robbinsville, Mercer County. "Who else in the country has the kinds of supports given to children in low-wealth communities?" he said. But that, he added, "comes at a cost."

And the major price that is paid is that the quality of education is sacrificed. I don't recall seeing NJ at the top of any educational standards lists.

[Swanks]

High costs, because lib judges ordered that the 30 poorest, of 550 school districts should get one half the education budget. Billions then are poured in these ratholes, where much of the funds are simply stolen.

For ex: in Newark an audit found that for 30 years the B-O-D was paying $100,000 yearly for someone who died in 1977.

So net-net is all the other districts still have to fund their schools. In effect making the taxpayer pay twice to educate his child. One time for his district, and one time for Camden, Paterson, Newark.

Lastly, voters have no rights re: education spending in NJ. What they 'vote' on, amounts to about 15% of the total budget. The other 85% is off the table, mandated.

Even if they reject the 15%, NEA has built in 'circuit breakers' at the municipal then state level to override the will of the voting public.

NJ taxpayers have no rights; they are serfs to their state government masters [but don't necc. know of feel like it].

[mtbopfuyn]

Atallo said that providing services for bilingual and English-as-a-Second-Language students who come from Paterson's large immigrant population, as well as the health and social programs the district offers, can be costly. Some potentially expensive programs such as preschool and full-day kindergarten classes are required under the Abbott v. Burke decisions.

Um, same here but we spend less than $7,000/student.

[b4its2late]

In New Jersey, the average spending in 2004-05 was $13,800 per student. The Garden State was second only to New York, which spent $14,119 per pupil.

Seems the headline is wrong. Maybe they meant certain areas of NJ. Looks like NY has NJ beat by a little over $300 per kid.

[68skylark]

In the Paterson school district, the average per pupil cost was $16,302.

We can't expect kids to read or do math at only $16,302 a year. We need to spend a lot more.