Posted on 05/26/2007 10:13:09 AM PDT by AlbertoMG
Yeah, right, whatever.
When it is your time to decide you can do it any way you like.
First off, transportation companies are not used for fighting. Secondly, I agree that there is no place for females in the combat arms. That’s infantry, armor or artillery. I was a mortarman(11 charlie)in a mech inf brigade. We were the heavy mortar platoon using 6 4.2 inch mortars. They were mounted in tracks(M106)but were also used on the ground. They were heavy buggers. Each round weighed 27 pounds. If you threw a track it was a bear getting it back on. It was all quite physical, and NOT a place for a female. Further, a female would have disrupted the unity of the unit.
I’m preaching to the choir here, but the only point of having a military is(in the words of Rush)to kill people and break things. It is not a place for social engineering or so a female can feel equal. Anything, anything that detracts from the most efficient means of killing people and breaking things should not be allowed.
Those of us who have seen the grim horror at the sharp end of infantry combat (as I did in a Mech Infantry outfit in Vietnam) are concerned at the rhetoric of many of those pushing the women in combat agenda. Daily we are regaled by the sight of 110 lb. women routinely beating the stuffing out of 250 lb male behemoths in choreographed entertainment fantasies like Buffy the vampire Slayer, Dark Angel, Tomb Raider and the Matrix Reloaded. We all listened breathlessly to the initial (later revealed as inaccurate) reports of brave little Jessica Lynch mowing down hordes of Iraqis.
It is only natural that with this continual barrage of opinion shaping that an attitude will begin to form that women are just as generally capable of participating in infantry combat as men are, with a comensurate erosion of the rationale for excluding them in the first place.
This is not to say that women can not serve in positions that enhance military capability, they are already serving in them, and serving well and honorably. It was Nazi Armament Minister Albert Speer who cited the German failure to mobilize their women in the manner that the Allies did in WWII as a significant factor in the Nazi defeat. In situations involving large scale mobilization, they are essential. (Don’t forget that the Soviets only did it because of the hugely staggering quantity of casualties that they suffered, on a scale that we can scarcely concieve of) That is not the case now as most personnel requirements could be met with the available pool of qualified males. Today, the issue is clouded by feminists and their societal influence ranging from lefist cum Marxist to liberal gender equity advocates. All too often combat readinesss, morale and unit cohesion is secondary to remaking the military institution into one which advances a radical social agenda. The decision to incorporate such large numbers of women into today’s military is a political decision, not one of military necessity has was the case with the Soviets during World War II.
One of the problems in assesing the impact of this issue vis-a-vis the Iraq war is the fact that we handily defeated them with the forces that were already in place in the invasion phase. Due to a combination of the skill of our superbly trained, equipped, motivated soldiers; and the ineptitude of our enemy (but they are getting better) our casualty rate has been thankfully far lower than we should have been reasonably able to expect given historical precedents. Notwithstanding this the question must be asked as to what would happen should we face an enemy that could inflict the sort of casualties on us has was the case during the fighting in northwest Europe in WWII? The United States Army was forced to comb out military personnel who had been assigned to the Army Specialized Training program as technical personnel (aircrew, radar operators, etc) and convert them to infantry to replace the staggering losses. Since 14% of the Army is not deployable to such duty (women) this does not bode well for such an eventuality. While we can continue to pray that we will never again face an enemy that will be able to attrite us as the German and Japanese Armies did, we MUST not plan as though it will never again happen. The Iraq war as it is presently playing out IS NO TEST OF THIS PROPOSITION. That answer would be revealed by an enemy that would actually be capable of defeating us in a dynamic battlefield environment.
Many commentators are relentless in their determination to ignore the considerable body of factual evidence indicating that the present policy of sexual intergration is inconsistent with certain vital forms of combat readiness. Study after study (reinforced by my 20 yrs of anecdotal observation in the active duty military and NG) highlight the physical unsuitability of most women for the tasks of the combat soldier, and often even the support soldier. My personal observations include the inability to change the tires on military vehicles, clear routine stoppages on M60 medium MG’s and .50 cal HMG’s, carry heavy loads any appreciable distances at necessary speeds, lift and evacuate casualties, and an inordinate disposition to injury. The reason that the military adopted “dual physical training standards” was to ensure politically acceptable numbers of women, since 40-60% of them would be washed out if they were required to meet male physical training requirements. My son, a reservist in a NG chopper unit, is contemptuous of what he describes as continual coddling of female soldiers. He is planning to transfer to an infantry unit.
In situations of full mobilization, women are essential. I believe that women are a militarily valuable asset, provided that asset is used in a manner that makes the military ready to fight, and subordinates feminist social engineering to that end.
Hundreds of thousands of women have served and are serving their country honorably and well. I honor them for their service and accept them as comrades and fellow veterans. We can only hope that their service will be continued in such a manner as to enhance the ability of the military to fight. The potential consequences for the individual soldier and the military’s mission are too serious to subordinate to social engineering.
BTW, the trans companies are as involved in the combat in Iraq as most other units-especially MP units who are often charged with providing the convoy security for thsoe units. Females really don't belong in the combat zone at all.
First, let me say that I have never doubted a woman’s willingness or ability to “pull the trigger”. I believe that this has been well documented throughout history.
However, among other things, combat is an athletic event, in which loosing has consequences far greater than not making the play-offs for another year. As mentioned by others in this string women do not have the physical strength to perform their portion of the “heavy lifting” so to speak. Consequently, if even one women were to be in, say, an infantry squad, it means that others in that squad would have to pick up her portion of said woman’s slack. Just to give an example, using a sports metaphor, let’s any team in the NFL and create a rule for one year that the selected team would have to have one woman on the field of play at all times. It is my opinion that this team would not even win a single game. This is the impact of physical disadvantage - in combat or sports.
Ehhhh? Read post 62 again.
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