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Romney Supports Tolerance for Gays, But Not Public Servants Who Speak Against Homosexuality
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | May 25, 2007 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 05/26/2007 10:46:29 AM PDT by Sleeping Beauty

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To: redgirlinabluestate

“discrimination” has been twisted:

Do you think very many sane people (let alone Christians) wish for Gays to be treated badly: NO@!

On the otherhand is is not discrimitory to gays to refuse them special rights such as “marriage”, “civil unions”, and “hate speech protections”, highering protections, ect.. I am not discrimination AGAINST gays by not support “Special Rights” for an immoral behavior. On the other hand I dont want the ordinary (rights) granted explicitcly in the US (or State) constitutions to be denied to gays.

There is one thing to be against an immoral behavior, and the thing Romney doesn’t recognize is that gays want to force acceptance of their lifestyle through radical-public policy. Now I as a Christian have the right to be opposed to that lifestyle because it is IMMORAL, and harmful, and should be defeated!


61 posted on 05/26/2007 1:58:37 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: TexanSniper

Sure. Huckabee, Tancredo, Lamborn, Pence, ect..+ true RR Conservatives.


62 posted on 05/26/2007 1:59:49 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: grey_whiskers
LOL !

Works for me.

sometimes...

63 posted on 05/26/2007 2:06:40 PM PDT by David_G_Burnet
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To: ears_to_hear
Well in the Mormon economy gays can not be “gods” cause you need wives ( so by definition you need to be straight to become a god of your own planet.)

Hey, as long as you have a "living prophet," things could change.

64 posted on 05/26/2007 2:06:55 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: gitmo
Which of the following are "personal" beliefs: Stealing is wrong. Adultery is wrong. Slavery is wrong. You should honor your parents.

Hey, you're not trying to impose your narrow-minded, parochial view of theft & slavery, are you?

[sarc] Good point!

65 posted on 05/26/2007 2:09:33 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sleeping Beauty
"I don't think that a person who's running for a secular position as I am should talk about or engage in discussions of what they in their personal faith or their personal beliefs is immoral or not immoral," Romney told the AP.

In track, they call this a "false start"--jumping the gun. McRomney is running to the left even tho the primary starting line is to the right.

But the good thing about this is folks won't be as surprised come next summer were he to win the primaries.

66 posted on 05/26/2007 2:13:09 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sleeping Beauty

I didn’t ever really care for Mitt Guiliani.


67 posted on 05/26/2007 2:16:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Gelato
Let me get this straight. Romney believes that candidates for office should not discuss what they consider "immoral or not immoral." And then, in the same interview, Romney gives his personal moral view on homosexuality, and says he would not even personally condemn it as sinful.

You get my vote for the most perceptive post yet!!!

That is exactly what Mitt has done: "You, see, candidates for secular positions should not discuss what they think is 'immoral' or 'moral' sexuality-wise--and BTW, homosexuality is not a moral issue, it's a 'choice' and 'belief.'"

He can't even get through one interview without contradicting himself.

68 posted on 05/26/2007 2:18:00 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
In track, they call this a "false start"--jumping the gun. McRomney is running to the left even tho the primary starting line is to the right.

That's what I thought, I figured he'd want to run on a "Massachusetts went for gay marriage on my watch, so my LDS faith does not threaten anyone" platform during the general election, but I figured he'd be silent on homosexuality during the primaries.

Hmm, another "lifelong hunter" misstep? He was hitting all the right notes since that time, thought he was learning when not to open his mouth.

69 posted on 05/26/2007 2:30:48 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Sleeping Beauty
Well, I thought Mitt McJulie-Ani put to bed last week the debate about polygamy by saying he couldn't imagine anything more awful. Now, this week, he tells us that for "official and secular roles [their posture] should be an expression of tolerance and respect for people regardless of our differences."

OK, will the real Mitt please stand up? Should public folks express "tolerance and respect for" practing polygamists "regardless of our differences," or should we say, "Yuck. Gross. Oooh?"

Either way he's inconsistent. Or, since we keep hearing about Mitty's "converted" status on other social issues, perhaps after last week's comments on polygamy he started having second thoughts about commenting publicly on other folks' sexual lifestyles and sexual "choices" and sexual "beliefs." Maybe dear ole great, great, great uncle Parley Pratt wasn't so bad, after all, to have had a dozen wives.

"I don't think that a person who's running for a secular position as I am should talk about or engage in discussions of what they in their personal faith or their personal beliefs is immoral or not immoral," Romney told the AP.

So, Mitt are you condemning yourself for talking about & engaging in discussions last week of what your personal faith or personal belief was as to the immorality of polygamy?

70 posted on 05/26/2007 2:33:26 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: JSDude1

“Sure. Huckabee, Tancredo, Lamborn, Pence, ect..+ true RR Conservatives.”

Here is what Huckabee had to say:

Do you believe that homosexuality is immoral?
Huckabee: That’s their business. I may not agree with it and, in fact, don’t agree with it. But I respect that they have the right to do it. When they want to change the rules, though, of institutions like marriage, I feel I have a responsibility to speak out. The rules are one man, one woman for life.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1607158,00.html

Sounds to me exactly like what mitt romney had to say. I bet the same goes for all the others but I dont have time to check on that right now.


71 posted on 05/26/2007 2:38:59 PM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: monkapotamus

Hah! Really like the “Men’s Pomade.” For some reason, it really describes the new brand of superficial conservatism we’re seeing lately.


72 posted on 05/26/2007 2:39:23 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: TexanSniper
Do you believe that homosexuality is immoral? Huckabee: That’s their business. I may not agree with it and, in fact, don’t agree with it. But I respect that they have the right to do it. When they want to change the rules, though, of institutions like marriage, I feel I have a responsibility to speak out. The rules are one man, one woman for life.

No, at best that's comparable to only half of what Mitt McJulie-Ani said. He also said: "I don't think that a person who's running for a secular position as I am should talk about or engage in discussions of what they in their personal faith or their personal beliefs is immoral or not immoral," Romney told the AP.

So he said candidates shouldn't even have a public discussion on what is immoral or moral if their personal faith or personal beliefs inform that morality. What utter nonsense! Of course people's faith and beliefs inform their morality, and of course sexual issues of every type enter into not only public discussions but public policies pertaining to health, marriage, family, etc!

And some folks want this guy in the oval office?

73 posted on 05/26/2007 2:55:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: TexanSniper; ProCivitas
So you think that it’s the job of government officials to give morality lessons and tell the citizenry how they should live their lives. Interesting.

Every law by its very presence sends a "morality" message. Drunk driving laws are a "morality" message. Statutory rape laws are a "morality" message. Even a yellow "yield" sign is a "morality" message concerning submission to another driver's right-of-way.

It sounds like you box up morality so tight that when people react to politicians' stories like this, it jumps at you like a Jack-in-the-box as if it was some sudden surprise.

74 posted on 05/26/2007 2:59:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Please, don’t say a word against Romeny....he is the favored RINO in these parts and he is untouchable...


75 posted on 05/26/2007 3:15:44 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
Please, don’t say a word against Romeny....he is the favored RINO in these parts and he is untouchable...

Guess the Repub party is hitchin' up the pioneer wagon train and headin' out due east to a plot of turf where they don' heerd prez-ee-den-tial candy-dates growd like wiii-ld weeds on the edges of a piile of fer-tee-lizer.

Ya know, that harvest field bo-nan-za that gave us the likes of Teddy K., Michael Du-ka-kis, and John Kerry. Boy, what a plum rich sucka--a bedevilin' boom--that Mass mecca has been for suckin' up to voter con-fee-dence!

76 posted on 05/26/2007 3:44:02 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Sleeping Beauty

Ladies and Gentlemen, consider yourselves warned about the sort of administration you'd see if Romney were to be nominated.

If you vote for him, don't be surprised, and don't complain when 8 years later the gay agenda has won a total and resounding victory because of his unwillingness to oppose their legislative and legal agenda.

With George Bush Jr, there were signs that he was going to engage in Hispandering before his election and nomination - signs which have led to where we are today and his full blown support for amnesty and open borders. This serious flaw on Bush's part was not well publicized before his election.

Romney's flaw is well publicized. Don't make the same mistake twice.
77 posted on 05/26/2007 3:49:19 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Wallace T.
I think that Romney has not quite got the conservative rhetoric down pat, and needs more practice.

Mitt should be replaced by a parrot.

The parrot would get his lines right and have even better hair.

78 posted on 05/26/2007 4:05:22 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: TexanSniper

Exactly: he said it was immoral, and (even though you can’t, neither is it my or his business to legislate personal behavior). He (Huckabee) I’m sure would not agree with allowing homosexual (other) special rights.

Romney on the otherhand has been a big supporter of homosexual special rights (barring “homosexual marriage”).

You are either for it or against it!


79 posted on 05/26/2007 4:24:27 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: Colofornian

I concur with your opionion.


80 posted on 05/26/2007 4:27:33 PM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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