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Photos of the day - May 26, 2007
Seattle Times ^ | May 26, 2007 | none

Posted on 05/26/2007 6:49:12 PM PDT by dr_lew

Palestinians run as a rocket falls at them during an Israeli air strike on the Hamas Executive Force building in Nusseirat refugee camp in the centre of the Gaza strip, Friday.

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... That's the lead off of the first photo caption. I refrain from a direct link on the supposition that it's not allowed. It shows a putative Israeli missile on a trajectory about 15 degrees from the vertical ( by protractor ) apparently "frozen in flight" by the camera. The composition suggests that a crowd of "youths" is running obliquely away from it.

This photo was on the front page of the NYT National Edition today, May 26, 2007. Their caption reads, "Palestinians ran as a missile fired by the Israeli Army came down on a Hamas post in the central Gaza strip." This seems to assume a ground-to-ground missile.

The NYT didn't use the second photo in the Seattle Times gallery, which evidently was taken about half a second later, as the crowd seems to have advanced by a single step.

I'm very suspicious, particularly of the first photo, due to the technical issues raised by the capture of the missile in flight. It's credited to Mahmud Hams, who claims to have been shot and wounded by the Israelis on May 5, according to a news search of his name.

( I thought I would see something about this on FR, but I didn't, so I'm posting it despite the peril of the dreaded duplicate thread. )

1 posted on 05/26/2007 6:49:13 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
Here's the picture:


2 posted on 05/26/2007 6:57:54 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: dr_lew
Looks like quite an explosion in picture two, but somehow the leaves on the nearby bushes don't seem to be disturbed at all.

Must have been a dud.

3 posted on 05/26/2007 6:59:55 PM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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To: jws3sticks
I could be wrong, but, If you look at the photo with Photoshop, you can see an outline that makes it look like it has has been 'pasted' into the photo.

Here's a blow up of the missle.


4 posted on 05/26/2007 7:07:51 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Bookmarking-maybe this will get interesting.


5 posted on 05/26/2007 7:15:43 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Calling illegal aliens undocumented workers is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: Bigh4u2
Great pick-up. I just copied it from the source page.
6 posted on 05/26/2007 7:21:10 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: pbear8

Possible fauxtography placemarker


7 posted on 05/26/2007 7:26:41 PM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow and for inflorida)
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To: GATOR NAVY

bttt


8 posted on 05/26/2007 7:27:13 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: jws3sticks

I copied it to my computer and looked at it with PhotoShop, because it seemed a bit strange that a moving missle was captured in flight without any apparent ‘blurring’ of the image.

If you look at the photo the ‘pixelation’ around the missle seems to be a bit to ‘smooth’ for an ‘inflight’ object. Not to mention that the camera used who have to have an extremely fast shutter speed to capture those two frames.

Like I said, I could be wrong. Maybe someone on here that is a little more versed in Photography than I could shed some light on this.


9 posted on 05/26/2007 7:29:08 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: dr_lew

Considering the photographer would have been in the blast radius, I’m suspicious too.

But on the chance that it is not, I guess the Pali’s don’t like rockets being launched at them either.


10 posted on 05/26/2007 7:30:18 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Bigh4u2

who = would


11 posted on 05/26/2007 7:30:25 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: VeniVidiVici

“Considering the photographer would have been in the blast radius, I’m suspicious too.”

Yeah. It made me wonder too, why the photographer wouldn’t be running as fast as he could to get away from an ‘incoming’ missle.


12 posted on 05/26/2007 7:32:24 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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I noticed that using MS Paint, but I looked at some pictures of my own taken with low resolution, and I see somewhat similar effects at boundaries, so I dunno.

Of course, I am suggesting that it was pasted in! But I don’t know if the pixel “halo” is evidence of this. My concerns are:

1) The missile speed. Could a shot like this really freeze an incoming missile? There seems to be no motion blur at all.

2) Is it air-launched or ground-launched? Most of the press coverage indicates an air attack, but the picture indicates a ballistic trajectory. The lack of rocket exhaust would seem to preclude an air-launch.

3) The sequence with the second picture. What did it hit? The middle ground looks empty in the first picture. Also, the timing seems suspect to me. Don’t you get an initial “ray” appearance, followed by plumes in the following seconds? Dunno.

These could be real, I guess, but I’m not convinced.


13 posted on 05/26/2007 7:35:15 PM PDT by dr_lew
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When you blow up the picture, the guy in the green shirt seems to be looking directly at the missile coming down.

That would be hard to set up as a photo shop flax propaganda piece

That adds to the credibility of the shot.

14 posted on 05/26/2007 7:35:31 PM PDT by Popman (New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
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To: dr_lew

The thing that drew my attention was if you just right click on the photo at the website and click on ‘view image’, you can see the outline of the missle in the original photo without even blowing it up.

I just magnified it for clarification.


15 posted on 05/26/2007 7:37:45 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Ooops. I made a mistake.

If you ‘download it’ and THEN view it in it’s original size in Explorer or Firefox, then you can see the outline.


16 posted on 05/26/2007 7:39:41 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Popman

“That would be hard to set up as a photo shop flax propaganda piece”

Not if the guy was ‘instructed’ to look in that direction, and then the missle Photoshopped into the correct spot in the shot.

Like I said. I don’t know for sure, but it just struck me as a little odd.


17 posted on 05/26/2007 7:42:00 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

AGM-114 Hellfire missile fired from an Apache.
Got to be.


18 posted on 05/26/2007 7:44:48 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: dr_lew
AGM-114 Hellfire



19 posted on 05/26/2007 7:49:06 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Doesn’t look the same.

The photo with the Palestinians doesn’t have a ‘round’ tip.

It’s pointed (kinda looks like an arrow head)


20 posted on 05/26/2007 7:52:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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