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Win Bin Laden Wants Us To Fail In Iraq
Townhall ^ | May 28, 2007 | Dinesh D'Souza

Posted on 05/28/2007 4:51:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

The best way for America to win the war on terror is to make alliances with traditional Muslims to stem the influence of the radical Muslims. Traditional Muslims are the majority group in the Islamic world. They make up perhaps 65-70 percent of the population. But traditional Islam is also the recruiting pool for radical Islam. What this means is that America cannot win its battle with radical Islam simply through military means. The military strategy is indispensable, as in Iraq, but it needs to be supplemented by a political and diplomatic strategy. The reason is that no matter how many Islamic radicals America kills, the purpose is defeated if twice as many traditional Muslims sign up for the radical camp. Therefore it is indispensable for America to seek to drive a wedge between traditional Muslims and radical Muslims.

How to do this? My new book The Enemy at Home offers a comprehensive strategy. Here I want to highlight one important approach. One of the biggest concerns of traditional Muslims is that they want to live in societies that defend Muslim interests and uphold Islamic values. Currently they are not in a position to do this. The reason is that most of the regimes in the Middle East today are secular tyrannies. Some examples of this are Egypt under Mubarak, Jordan under Abdullah, and the Gulf kingdoms. American conservatives tend to support these regimes because they are pro-American, and American liberals tend to support them because they are secular.

Against secular tyranny the radical Muslims offer their own alternative: Islamic tyranny. Iran is a perfect example of this, and an Iran-style theocracy is what Bin Laden would like to see throughout the region. While traditional Muslims don’t like Islamic tyranny, they also detest secular tyranny. Given the bleak choice between these two forms of tyranny, we should not be entirely surprised that some Muslims—even traditional Muslims—might opt for Islamic tyranny. If we’re going to have tyranny, they reason, let it at least be Islamic.

So the way for America to build bridges to traditional Muslims is to cautiously and prudentially support democracy in the Middle East. I underscore the terms “cautiously” and “prudentially” because I am not calling for a global democracy initiative of the type that President Bush has previously extolled. Yes, democracy is our ideal, but that does not mean we should support democracy everywhere, or in every single case. So when should America support democracy? When it is in America’s interest to do so. Iraq is one such case. Saudi Arabia is not.

Incredibly many Americans think that somehow Islam is incompatible with democracy, or that traditional Muslims don’t want democracy. In reality, a majority of the world’s Muslims today live under democratic governments—in Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Bangladesh, Nigeria, and Turkey, not to mention Muslims living in Western countries. There is nothing in the Koran or the Islamic tradition that forbids democracy.

But America cannot support democracy while telling the Muslims whom to vote for. In the Palestinian election, America openly lobbied for the candidates of Fatah, the party of Arafat. Not surprisingly, a majority of Muslims voted for Hamas, which presented itself as the party that would fight for Muslim interests. Similarly in Iraq, America initially wanted the secular, liberal fellow Iyad Allawi. The Iraqis decided on the more religious candidates, first Ibrahim al-Jafaari and now the current prime minister Nouri al-Maliki. Typically America interferes in Islamic elections because it wants Muslims to adopt the kind of secular, liberal democracy that most Muslims emphatically reject. Muslims are generally religious and socially conservative, and they fear secular liberalism as a threat to their core values.

So should we permit traditional Muslims to establish Islamic societies under sharia if they wish? Yes, we should. This is the essential meaning of democracy—Muslims must choose their own way. Iraq is the test case for this. If the people of Iraq want Islam to be the state religion, we should allow it to happen. If they want sharia, let them have it. There’s no reason to try to turn Baghdad into Boston. Just as democracy has enabled Japan to establish a very different kind of society than France or America, so democracy will enable Muslims to define their own civilization. This is multiculturalism in its truest and best sense, and it deserves American support. Democratization does not mean Westernization.

Support for democracy does not mean that America needs a worldwide campaign to overthrow unelected regimes. While democracy is desirable as a long-term goal, it is not always to America’s benefit to have democracy now. Foreign policy is not philanthropy, but rather a way for America to promote its interests worldwide. America is not obliged to use its resources to produce anti-American outcomes. There are hereditary monarchs in the Middle East, as in the Gulf Kingdoms, who are pro-American and enjoy fairly high levels of popular esteem. It would be imprudent under current circumstances to pressure these kingdoms to democratize or liberalize. (They are already quite liberal by Middle Eastern standards.) Nor should America seek to coerce tyrants like Musharaff, Mubarak and the Saudi royal family to become more liberal or secular. If they do, they will become further alienated from their people and become more vulnerable to being overthrown.

Iraq represents America’s initiative not to establish democracy everywhere but to establish democracy somewhere. Bin Laden and the Islamic radicals want America to fail in Iraq not because they fear democracy per se but because they fear pro-American democracy. This is something truly new in the Middle East. We should at least give it a chance. If it works the traditional Muslims can then pursue it for themselves throughout the region. Iraq is America’s best chance to promote traditional Islam as a viable alternative to radical Islam.

Dinesh D'Souza's new book The Enemy at Home: The Cultural Left and Its Responsibility for 9/11 has just been published by Doubleday. D’Souza is the Rishwain Fellow at the Hoover Institution.


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1 posted on 05/28/2007 4:51:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

a slippery slope

islam teaches the killing of the infidel is justified

an islamic state is by definition a terrorist one


2 posted on 05/28/2007 4:58:33 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (jorge bush is the first mexican president)
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To: Kaslin
The best way for America to win the war on terror is to make alliances with traditional Muslims to stem the influence of the radical Muslims.

That's the moderate way to go about winning a war and it's not particularily working. The BEST way to win a war is to stomp out your enemy. We never would have won WWII the way we're fighting this war. We went in and put the hammer down!

Bush's idea of moderately going about trying to win friends and influence people around extremist in countries who have no respect for human life and want to dominate the world is becoming increasingly dangerous.

3 posted on 05/28/2007 5:17:34 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth; Kaslin
Most 'moderate' muslims—whatever small number of them there might be—are frightened of their radical co-religionists. It doesn't take many extremists to push herds of moderates into corrals of silence.
4 posted on 05/28/2007 5:21:33 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Kaslin
B.S.

What the U.S. needs to do is subjugate Iraq, secure the oil fields,...ban islam, write a constitution for them, put into power people who are on our side and "make" them to live under the law.

A PC "war" where we don't really want to hurt anybody or bruise muzzie feelings is getting us nowhere. Muzzies get their feelings hurt really easily...a mere cartoon will do it.

In time Iraq will get used to the idea of living under a western style "democracy" and learn to like it. Japan did....and it didn't take them very long to get used to the idea.

5 posted on 05/28/2007 5:28:31 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: Kaslin

I agree we should not be hung up on liberal secular democracy. However, the project that includes Iraq and Afghanistan “clears a space” where there is sufficient security and rule of law to foster commerce and prosperity. If you have true sharia law, the stilting rule of the clerics will kill this process.


6 posted on 05/28/2007 5:34:24 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: sirchtruth

And in WWII, we had a solid set of nations that we were fighting against. We fought countries and politicians in WWII.

Now, we are at war with millions of individuals, disperesed amongst many nations. “Putting the hammer down” here would have the same effect as “putting the hammer down” on jello!

Although, there is a bit to your approach that can still be used- breaking their will to fight.

Slaughter so many of their fighters in such a glorious display of might that the rest of the extremists lose their will to fight.

And in that regard, I simply say this- just watch what happens. ;)


7 posted on 05/28/2007 5:50:41 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Peace is not the highest goal - freedom is. -LachlanMinnesota)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

Gradual liberalization away from tyranny is a pipe dream. It produces revolutions.


8 posted on 05/28/2007 5:51:14 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats want Americans to fail in the war on terror.


9 posted on 05/28/2007 5:52:55 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Kaslin
The BEST way to win a war is to stomp out your enemy.

General George Patton understood that very well, as did General Douglas McArthur. I wish we had men like that running the Iraq operation, as well as politicians with their kind of stones.

10 posted on 05/28/2007 6:33:20 AM PDT by Marauder (Allah = Lucifer)
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To: Kaslin
One of the biggest concerns of traditional Muslims is that they want to live in societies that defend Muslim interests and uphold Islamic values.

Values like taqiyah (lying to the Infidel for the advancement of Islam), women as property, justifying the killing of Infidels just because they ARE Infidels...

No thanks, Dinesh! Let them move to an Islamic hellhole and try to "moderate" it.

11 posted on 05/28/2007 6:37:04 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: JimRed

Dinesh is the quintessence of pollyanna. He should memorize Surah 3, verses 118-120, which begins: O ye who believe! Take not for intimates other than your own folk. [The others] would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you., etc.

It is very hard to have a truly cordial or perdurable relation with people who are warned against making pacts with the kufr (infidel). Dinesh does not comprehend that this War on Terror is not one of years, but of this century and likely to the century to come. Unfortunately, there is damned little the United States and all its State Department policies — except capitulation — can do about it.


12 posted on 05/28/2007 7:34:32 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Kaslin
Traditional Muslims are the majority group in the Islamic world. They make up perhaps 65-70 percent of the population. But traditional Islam is also the recruiting pool for radical Islam.

This is a bit self-contradictory. If traditional Islam is the recruiting pool for radical Islam then what justifies the distinction we're supposed to all pretend to see?

What this means is that America cannot win its battle with radical Islam simply through military means.

You know, I think people need to be corrected when they say this. We could win a battle with radical Islam simply through military means - all we would have to do is kill a large enough number of people (think Hiroshima squared). I don't say this because I wish for that outcome, but because it is a logical possibility, and because our enemies need to be reminded of that possibility.

What D'Souza, and others who say this, really mean to say is "we can't win it through military means, without resorting to mass slaughter that would offend our sensibilities". Quite. But let's not all forget that we do have more offensive options open to us at all times; forgetting this is neither good for us, nor our enemies.

Therefore it is indispensable for America to seek to drive a wedge between traditional Muslims and radical Muslims.

Sounds great. Easier said than done.

So should we permit traditional Muslims to establish Islamic societies under sharia if they wish? Yes, we should. This is the essential meaning of democracy—Muslims must choose their own way.

It's the essential meaning of pure democracy, but few people in the West who use the word "democracy" are referring to pure democracy in the first place. To most in the West, "democracy" really connotes constitutional democratic republicanism. There may be aspects of "allowing sharia" which conflict with constitutional democratic republicanism; however, it's not clear because it's not clear exactly what "sharia" means in this or that implementation.

So, to say "we should allow sharia because that's democratic" is flawed in two ways:

1) no one ever said we wanted to bring pure democracy to Iraq or anywhere else;

2) "sharia" is a vague term that could mean anything on a scale from which meat can be sold in which markets, to beheading accused "rapists" for being in a room alone with a girl, on the say-so of 3 of the girl's relatives. which "sharia" are we supposed to allow in the name of "democracy"? It matters.

That said, D'Souza's basic advice - we should support democracy when it's in our interests to do so - is essentially sound, if vacuous. He's really saying almost nothing that doesn't merit the simple answer "Duh!". For example, I take his advice and apply it to Iraq and I discover that we should do.... precisely what we're doing already.

Fascinating.

Just as democracy has enabled Japan to establish a very different kind of society than France or America, so democracy will enable Muslims to define their own civilization. This is multiculturalism in its truest and best sense, and it deserves American support. Democratization does not mean Westernization.

It did in Japan. D'Souza is being dishonest a bit here with his historical analogy. We didn't "allow" Japan to just develop whatever sort of governance they "wanted" in the name of "democracy".

Nor should America seek to coerce tyrants like Musharaff, Mubarak and the Saudi royal family to become more liberal or secular. If they do, they will become further alienated from their people and become more vulnerable to being overthrown.

That's fine (I basically agree) but now I'm confused about what D'Souza's point was supposed to be. The existence of these regimes, and our "support" for them, is precisely one of the factors touted as being a reason that "they hate us" (tm/2001). If we "don't pressure" them to liberalize - even if we do nothing material to support them - then this can, and will, be painted as "support" for such regimes by terrorist recruiters. And those recruiters will get recruits on that basis.

Didn't D'Souza promise to tell us how to drive a wedge between recruiters and their potential recruits? Here he's saying: let's not pressure tyrannies to liberalize if, for example, we're allied with them. But our alliance with such tyrannies is a recruiting tool by itself. So this won't work, unless D'Souza is going to take it a step further and advocate the isolationist approach, that we need to distance ourselves from such regimes entirely. I sense that he's trying to point us in that direction, without coming out and admitting it.

Iraq is America’s best chance to promote traditional Islam as a viable alternative to radical Islam.

Hmm. It may also be demonstrating the wrongheadedness of the thinking that "promoting traditional Islam" can, or ought, to be one of our goals. It's not as if there's a huge amount of evidence, as of yet, that huge numbers of Muslims like what we're doing in Iraq because it's supporting neither secular tyranny nor religious tyranny. But we'll see, I suppose.

13 posted on 05/28/2007 9:28:19 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Kaslin

An inclusion of Turkey is prominently missing from this article.


14 posted on 05/28/2007 10:34:13 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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