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Plunge in CD Sales Shakes Up Big Labels
NYTimes via Drudge ^ | May 28, 2007 | JEFF LEEDS

Posted on 05/28/2007 5:23:23 AM PDT by WL-law

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To: visualops
Even satellite radio I find repetitive (and for no ads they sure do alot of self-promo).

You got that right. And a lot of promos for concerts. Which will eventually lead to ads - wait and see.

61 posted on 05/28/2007 6:29:10 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: finnigan2
all they do is perform like trained seals.

It started with the Monkee's, back in the 60's
62 posted on 05/28/2007 6:32:49 AM PDT by tje
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To: KoRn

I believe the music industry began its inevitable slide into mediocrity after the deregulation of radio and television stations in the 1990s. Now, all the radio stations in this country are owned by a few giant media conglomerates — which explains why all the music sounds the same. Also, these media giants also own record labels as well — and their radio stations are an ideal venue to “self-promote” their own music. That’s why most radio stations play the same crap repeatedly for weeks/months on end.


63 posted on 05/28/2007 6:35:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: tflabo
PS. I’m a staunch conservative too... I just really like the Grateful Dead music... their music was not political either although they were spawned from the liberal left...

Jerry Garcia's Conservative Children

64 posted on 05/28/2007 6:35:50 AM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: TLEIBY308
Most of the new talent just plain sucks

Agree but ignoring the rap/hip-hop crap I actually think there's way more great music now than ever before. Most of the reason IMO is that I'm finally able to hear more music than in the past. I never listen to FM radio, rarely buy CDs, and can't say TV has recently influenced my music buying habits. What has influenced me though is that there's a ton of websites promoting indie music (e.g., www.garageband.com, misc. audio blogs on vox.com). Anyone with a computer and a little bit of talent can put together a CD very cheaply. Yes most of it's junk but there's quite a few gems out there too. Sadly most of which will never be heard.
65 posted on 05/28/2007 6:37:07 AM PDT by weef
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To: finnigan2
Songs are written for them and all they do is perform like trained seals. The first time that I became aware of this was with the Spice Girls although I’m sure it must have started before them.

Its interesting that you mention the Spice Girls. This is a group that was started about 10 years ago. Everybody has heard of them, but as far as I can recall, they only had one Hit!

66 posted on 05/28/2007 6:37:40 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: tflabo

“One thing about the Grateful Dead is they were not greedy with their music. They allowed free audio recordings of their long concerts by attendees.”

Exactly. They encouraged trading of show recordings as well. Go to archive.org and you will find hundred’s of Dead shows for free. At first, they did not want the shows out there but gave in after a while.


67 posted on 05/28/2007 6:38:06 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Even that would be bad if it weren't for the fact that most of what they play was as you said "crap". It's mostly computer generated, overly compressed and processed, garbage. That's the fundamental problem.
68 posted on 05/28/2007 6:38:16 AM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: jwpjr
The Allman Brothers' "Midnight Rider" was the theme song for a great Miller Genuine Draft commercial about 10-15 years ago.

And GM's "Like a Rock" pickup truck ads -- which use the Bob Seger song with the same name -- has been called the most effective ad campaign in U.S. history.

69 posted on 05/28/2007 6:38:28 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: tflabo

I agree on that one. I d/l’ed a 2006 sxsw big compilation of free music, 820ish songs from about 775 artists, I have no idea what any of the artists look like besides Nickle Creek and the The Decemberists, and that’s only because those went big sometime after the compilation was released.

torrent (~3.1GB):
http://player.sxsw.com/torrents/SXSW_2007_Showcasing_Artists-Release_1.torrent

and a decent winnowing down of the 700+ songs in that torrent:
http://music.for-robots.com/archives/001906.html


70 posted on 05/28/2007 6:38:50 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: WL-law

I would think all the enviro-whacko lefties in the music biz would be happy about this. Manufacturing CDs uses resources and is bad for the environment.


71 posted on 05/28/2007 6:39:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: arbooz
CD prices were outrageous from the start and never really came down.

The RIAA tried to be a cartel and got their rear ends handed to them because according to the laws of economics, overpricing by a cartel results in a MAJOR incentive to cheat against the cartel members. That's why the original Napster was so successful, and why the iTunes Music Store is doing the same on a legal basis. The RIAA should cut the suggested retail price of an album-length CD to US$10, and at that much lower price the incentive to thwart the system drops drastically.

72 posted on 05/28/2007 6:41:08 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: tflabo
PS. I’m a staunch conservative too... I just really like the Grateful Dead music

You're in good company.

73 posted on 05/28/2007 6:43:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: visualops
Paying a dollar or close to it for a song that in some cases has limited life/playability, that's a no for me.

I love the advertising boasts of music players these days, that they can hold 10,000 songs. Pardon me, but to fill that thing up would cost $10,000!

I'll pass.

74 posted on 05/28/2007 6:44:38 AM PDT by poindexter
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To: WL-law
There are several good books out documenting the self-inflicted wounds that the recording industry has brought upon itself. One of them being Dirty Little Secrets of the Record Business, aptly subtitled "Why So Much Music You Hear Sucks" by Hank Bordowitz.

Looking at the big picture, if anything, file-sharing has actually kept the music industry afloat as this is the ONLY way that most people are finding music worth buying these days.

FM radio has become a wasteland of limited playlists handpicked by consultants and focus groups to appeal to the lowest common denominator (so as to drive ratings and ad revenues). This is why the "hits" have a much longer shelf life than before. Radio programmers are so afraid to play something new and different because they are afraid their listeners will tune elsewhere. Hence you have bland songs like "100 Years" by Five for Fighting and the same old songs by Maroon 5 and Coldplay still in heavy rotation 2-3 years after their initial release!

"Play it Safe" is the motto of radio programmers today, leaving it to satellite radio (with their 100+ commercial free stations) to break new songs and artists. But since satellite radio has only penetrated a fraction of the total audience, it is not enough to stop the decline of the music industry.

It used to be that record labels would invest several years in developing new artists, tolerating low sales for the first few albums in exchange for a big payoff later on when the artist finally achieved critical mass. But in todays climate, the record labels would have given up on such artists as Bruce Springsteen, Pink Floyd, REO Speedwagon, The Police, and Bob Dylan (just to name a tiny few bands that didn't sell many of their first records but now sell millions of records a year through their catalog years after their popularity peaked).

It is hard to believe that the "flavor-of-the-month" recording artists record labels are thrusting upon us now will be selling much catalog years from now. Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Clay Aiken, etc. Can anybody imagine people buying their "music" a few years from now?

Online sales had the potential to offset declining CD sales years ago but the music industry decided to hobble this growing market by imposing upon us DRM (Digital RESTRICTIONS Management).

iTunes could be selling TEN TIMES the amount of music they are today had they not been forced to impose digital restrictions management on their music. The vast majority of consumers simply will pay good money for crippled music files when they could easily rip a higher-quality track (with no restrictions) from a CD - either traded on line, bought used or borrowed from a friend or even the library.

It will be very interesting to see how the DRM-free music about to be offered by iTunes (EMI only) fares. I have some issues with the higher price of these DRM-free tracks but my gut feeling is that the music industry will be surprised by how briskly these tracks sell.

75 posted on 05/28/2007 6:44:51 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 74 days away from outliving Curt Hennig (whoever he is))
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To: Condor 63
" Pink to give one example....."

Yes, that's a very good example! I hope all of the 'disposable musicians' are smart enough to save their money when they get that big hit, and don't blow it on an extravagant lifestyle, because it isn't going to last. Chances are most of them end up owing much more money than they made. lol

76 posted on 05/28/2007 6:45:48 AM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: RayChuang88
$10 is a fair price. We've got two cds forsale for that price. 12 or 13 songs on each. It's cheaper than the itunes price of a dollar per song.

We recorded the cds in our own studio. Around 220 hours of studio time for each CD. Then we paid to have them manufactured. The manufacturing cost including artwork etc was about $1.65 per cd. another 40 cents per cd paying licensing fees on some of the songs we recorded. So we come out just over $2 bucks to produce the CD. I'd guess major producers do it even cheaper than that.

77 posted on 05/28/2007 6:45:58 AM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: romanesq

I’m a PC guy. Is there anywhere I can buy songs now at a cheap price without the protection software?


78 posted on 05/28/2007 6:46:05 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: tje
all they do is perform like trained seals.

It started with the Monkee's, back in the 60's

Actually, it started with Phil Spector and the Ronettes back in the early '60s.

79 posted on 05/28/2007 6:46:58 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

And also when record execs told the Beatles to ditch Pete Best in favor of Richard Starkey.


80 posted on 05/28/2007 6:48:47 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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