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To: CottShop
If there's no response, there's no stressor, by definition.

As well, I again must point out that the coding that allows cells to adapt and survive, must have coem from somwhere...

The "coding" lies in the cell's response to the stressor, if the response allows the cell to survive then it survives and reproduces its attributes, including the "coding."

I don't see the need to add the concept, 'that the coding must have come from somewhere.' The cell cannot foresee all possible stressors, (in fact it foresees none) and many cells' responses are not sufficient for survival---but those that are, do survive. You might call that process, "accidental." I would call it incidental to being alive.

466 posted on 06/05/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Rudder

[The “coding” lies in the cell’s response to the stressor, if the response allows the cell to survive then it survives and reproduces its attributes, including the “coding.”]

The concept you’re suggesting is that all advancements to higher forms (although there could also be lower degredation as well) come from stressors increasing information in cells, and if that were the case, then we would be able to demonstrate evolution from one species to another through experiments. Also the problem comes in that only species specific changes can happen to gene coding for which the species has been already coded to accept- if evolution through gene changes through stressors to cells were a reality, then we certainly would be able to demonstrate this process today- but the fact is that we can not demonstrate any addition of NEW non species specific changes that would result in new organs and systems that are unique to other species only.

Again I must point out that not all advancement in evolution hypothesis is based on stressors- those who beleive in evolution contend that environmental pressures necessitate adaption that leads to evolution- this need isn’t a direct stressor on the suppsoed systems that some say evolved such as first feathers then wings (although I’m not sure what the pressing need to fly was when so much food is available on the ground- but that’s another story). So supposedly, added information comes from environmental induced needs that urge a species to only accept mutational mistakes that would advantage them- although one really needs to ask- since evolution supposedly takes millions of years, wouldn’t those ‘needs’ be changing in all that time while a species awaited their feathered wings? If the need to evolve is so great at a given time, and it takes millions of years to evolve something like wings, then it would seem that those individuals that could overcome the fact that they didn’t their required wings in time would have no logner needed wings because they would have found other resources to survive.


470 posted on 06/05/2007 11:21:19 PM PDT by CottShop
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