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For Cloaked Saudi Women, Color Is the New Black
Washington Post ^ | May 28, 2007 | Faiza Saleh Ambah

Posted on 05/29/2007 7:17:41 AM PDT by george76

Manal Fageeh never liked the abaya, the long black cloak she was forced to begin wearing at 13. She resented the fact that it was obligatory for women in Saudi Arabia, and the black absorbed heat in the often-scorching climate.

Saudi women have long been known in the West for their all-enveloping black attire, widely considered a mark of their oppression. But Sharif and Fageeh are among a growing number of women and girls here who are rethinking and reinventing the abaya to more closely reflect their personalities and religious beliefs.

The redefinition of the abaya mirrors the greater, though still limited, personal freedoms allowed in the kingdom over the past five years. A major factor in the change was the involvement of young Saudis in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Many people began to question the official Wahhabi ideology that was believed to have partly inspired the hijackers...

Saudi women bear the brunt of that puritanical ideology. They are not allowed guardianship over themselves and need male permission to marry or travel. They cannot drive or work alongside men and are forced to cover up with the abaya in public.

Since shortly after the first girls schools opened here in 1955, the abaya has been mandatory beginning in middle school. Until several years ago, members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, the enforcement arm of the Wahhabi establishment, patrolled streets and malls with sticks, making sure that women were properly veiled, that men and women who were not related did not mingle and that stores closed during prayer times.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abaya; burqa; hijab; islam; jiddah; muhammadsminions; muslims; religionofpeace; rop; saudiarabia; saudis; sharia; sharialaw; wahhabi

1 posted on 05/29/2007 7:17:43 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Stone the hussies.


2 posted on 05/29/2007 7:19:19 AM PDT by DManA
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To: M. Espinola

3 posted on 05/29/2007 7:20:21 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

This thread is useful, even without pictures...


4 posted on 05/29/2007 7:22:06 AM PDT by gridlock (How often must environmentalism have negative consequences before we stop calling them unintended?)
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To: gridlock

Thanks


5 posted on 05/29/2007 7:24:30 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: gridlock
Here's some anyway:

(Local = Pakistan)

6 posted on 05/29/2007 7:26:20 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar (yes....it's sarcasm)
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To: george76
As I understand it, it is NOT only Saudi Women but all women in Sharia Law Dictatorships. Make that read women under the slavery of Islam.
7 posted on 05/29/2007 7:26:25 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: george76

“We act one way in Saudi Arabia and differently when we travel,” she said. “As if God is to be observed only here.”

Which tells me they don’t really believe.


8 posted on 05/29/2007 7:27:34 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: george76

Color makes them easier stoning targets.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 7:28:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: george76

Too funny!


10 posted on 05/29/2007 7:29:30 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: george76
Now, like many Saudi women, Yamani unwraps her head scarf and removes her abaya as soon as she boards a plane leaving the country.

Sharif, the editor, called such behavior an instance of Saudi Arabia's split personality. "We act one way in Saudi Arabia and differently when we travel," she said. "As if God is to be observed only here."

They enjoy the freedoms of non-muslim countries yet do everything in their power (generally speaking) to destroy these countries and make them islamic...

11 posted on 05/29/2007 7:30:51 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Another favorite...


12 posted on 05/29/2007 7:31:20 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Ladies, paint your chains in soft colors for Spring. It’ll perk up your slavery and lighten that ol’ oppression so you can almost forget about it for a couple of minutes during the day...


13 posted on 05/29/2007 7:31:38 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959.)
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To: 2banana

Apparently everyone on the Saudi plane goes western as the plane crosses the border ( at 30,000 feet ? ) and then goes Saudi on the return flight at the border.

The pilot must announce it ?


14 posted on 05/29/2007 7:34:08 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: kalee
Which tells me they don’t really believe.

Oh, they believe, alright.

It's just that their fallen pig-god isn't all seeing and all powerful.

Real Prophets climb mountains to be closer to God.
They don't crawl into caves to listen to the hissings of The Serpent.

15 posted on 05/29/2007 7:35:47 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: george76

What, a yellow shoe?


16 posted on 05/29/2007 7:35:53 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: george76
The pilot must announce it ?

Maybe. I suspect they can smell the freedom, though...

17 posted on 05/29/2007 7:37:18 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: mtbopfuyn
What, a yellow shoe?

The slut!

(I bet it's brand named after a Greek God, too)...

18 posted on 05/29/2007 7:39:37 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: martin_fierro

the burka band

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW9oYzMhiF4


19 posted on 05/29/2007 7:40:45 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Where the NOW gang and the feminists when you need them?


20 posted on 05/29/2007 7:48:31 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: george76
This Afghan woman's abaya is blue.

So I guess that means she isn't being "oppressed"...

21 posted on 05/29/2007 7:50:33 AM PDT by gridlock (How often must environmentalism have negative consequences before we stop calling them unintended?)
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To: george76
The pilot must announce it ?

That's what I've heard as well. In-flight alcohol service is also apparently affected by the location in airspace.

22 posted on 05/29/2007 7:52:49 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: george76
A major factor in the change was the involvement of young Saudis in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Many people began to question the official Wahhabi ideology that was believed to have partly inspired the hijackers
It's hard to believe those words were printed in the comPost.
23 posted on 05/29/2007 7:54:36 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: AnnaZ
Funny, but somewhat scary tagline...
24 posted on 05/29/2007 7:55:11 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: george76
"God ordered women to dress modestly, to be respectable and to avoid provoking lust."

All the responsibility for "avoiding provoking lust" is on women. Men are free to do as they please. When an illicit affair occurs, it is always the woman's fault.

Why aren't American feminists attacking islam? </irony>

25 posted on 05/29/2007 8:01:55 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: george76
They cannot drive or work alongside men and are forced to cover up with the abaya in public.

Change is coming from within for those brave enough to fight the oppressive systems. The first I heard of any resistance was in the 90s when a group of Saudi women conspicuously drove around in a car alone in protest of the prohibition.

Personally, I think if every fed-up Muslim woman would take a tip (or more than a tip) from Lorena Bobbit, this problem would end rather quickly.

26 posted on 05/29/2007 8:09:17 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wysiwyg

At a mall on fashionable Tahlia Street recently, a line of young men trailed three fully covered young women wearing the niqab, or face veil, with slits that exposed only their eyes. The women, who had stopped to look at cellphone accessories, wore tight black abayas, green and blue contact lenses, heavy mascara and eyeliner, and strong perfume.


27 posted on 05/29/2007 8:23:06 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Country)
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To: null and void
;^)
28 posted on 05/29/2007 8:25:38 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The first I heard of any resistance was in the 90s when a group of Saudi women conspicuously drove around in a car alone in protest of the prohibition.

They were probably stoned to death shortly thereafter.

29 posted on 05/29/2007 8:26:15 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: antiRepublicrat
Møøslimb men are already circumcised...
30 posted on 05/29/2007 8:28:16 AM PDT by null and void ("Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find American blood at its roots.")
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To: 2banana

The only thing this proves is that they are frightened not to wear that crap in Saudi.


31 posted on 05/29/2007 8:38:56 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: null and void

32 posted on 05/29/2007 8:42:22 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: wysiwyg

If we were to lose this global war, the liberal women would be wearing burkas and they would lose their right to vote, go to school, hold a job, drive a car...


33 posted on 05/29/2007 8:44:56 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: AnnaZ

The comPost editors must have been asleep :

A major factor in the change was the involvement of young Saudis in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Many people began to question the official Wahhabi ideology that was believed to have partly inspired the hijackers


34 posted on 05/29/2007 8:50:02 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

ROFL!

How “disrepectful” of them, to make fun of foreign customs!


35 posted on 05/29/2007 8:50:24 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: D-Chivas

Since they are PART of the “everyone is =” crowd, wherein every nation is the same and every culture (except the US, which is inferior), and hence they cannot question customs or disparage them, they have painted themselves in corners.

Since they’ve basically said Moslem culture is “good” and it’s OK to do all these things in Moslem culture (how dare we judge!), they cannot backtrack on their approval of this foreign culture.

Moreso, however, it’s probably because their hatred of the US as a non-communist republic trumps any “love” they have for women. Attacking Moslems would implicitly be approval of “US” culture.


36 posted on 05/29/2007 8:55:38 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: LibreOuMort

ping


37 posted on 05/29/2007 9:06:18 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: null and void
Møøslimb men are already circumcised...

Cut off a lot more.

38 posted on 05/29/2007 12:05:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: george76

Good one! :)


39 posted on 05/29/2007 3:05:31 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: george76

btt


40 posted on 05/29/2007 3:48:58 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: george76

heh, I observe all the Saudi men wear cool white gowns ... lucky I guess


41 posted on 05/29/2007 4:44:41 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: gridlock

Was that a three? It looks like he made the shot from beyond the free throwup line...


42 posted on 05/29/2007 4:48:42 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: PissAndVinegar

Mmmm. I like that cranberry colored one. It would be pretty for a formal occasion, without all the head garb, of course.


43 posted on 05/29/2007 5:12:57 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: george76

Non-Muslim American girls are being taught how to wear abayas, by liberal teachers in affluent towns. Photo:

http://nashuatelegraph.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?userphoto=0&theevent=265030


44 posted on 05/29/2007 8:42:36 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: PissAndVinegar
You left out "potato style"


45 posted on 05/29/2007 8:49:20 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: PissAndVinegar

Some are quite beautiful and i imagine quiet expensive. Do they wear them with the headdress also?


46 posted on 05/29/2007 9:05:57 PM PDT by KristieK
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To: LibFreeOrDie

47 posted on 05/29/2007 9:07:45 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
The Saudi Fashionista know the purity of a White Abaya is a must for your First Stoning.

48 posted on 05/30/2007 3:30:25 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: mtbopfuyn

“What, a yellow shoe?”

I saw that......She must be the rebellious SLUT of the group.


49 posted on 05/30/2007 4:00:10 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: george76

A muzzie is still a muzzie, just like you can put put lipstic on a pig but it is still a pig.


50 posted on 05/30/2007 4:06:25 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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