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Let's be Competitive — Free the Fed!
MoneyNews.com (Newsmax) ^ | May 30, 2007 | John Browne

Posted on 05/30/2007 9:47:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Toddsterpatriot

You can disagree with the ideas, but once you started in with your “dumb” “not too bright” etc. you ceased to be attacking the ideas and started attacking the man. Much like they do with Rush where the arguments directed at his devolve into “well you’re just fat” in about 30 seconds or less. Whatever makes you feel better, but in my experience anyone who has to blow their own trumpet and I quote you, “I’m smarter than you.” is compensating for something.


81 posted on 05/30/2007 3:15:24 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss

You WILL notice, of course, that your mockery of retarded people has been deleted.

As I said, you OUGHT to be ashamed.


82 posted on 05/30/2007 3:17:38 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: rednesss
...anyone who has to blow their own trumpet and I quote you, “I’m smarter than you.” is compensating for something.

He's compensating for the fact that you're not very smart.

83 posted on 05/30/2007 3:18:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Hey you, Rockerfeller!

You think the Fed will institute a collection action for their $9 trillion?


84 posted on 05/30/2007 3:20:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
No, I don’t believe that we pay the Fed $1 trillion a year. I also don’t believe that we owe the Federal Reserve $6.5 trillion.

You're right. The amount we actually owe the Federal Reserve is eleventy jillion dollars . . . EACH!

85 posted on 05/30/2007 3:22:29 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: rednesss
You can disagree with the ideas, but once you started in with your “dumb” “not too bright” etc. you ceased to be attacking the ideas and started attacking the man.

You asked the question.

And you are the self-proclaimed intelligencia????

And as far as your ideas. They're wrong. We've shown that up thread. Do I need to count your errors on this thread. Will that convince you?

Whatever makes you feel better, but in my experience anyone who has to blow their own trumpet and I quote you, “I’m smarter than you.”

Don't ask a question if the answer will make you cry.

86 posted on 05/30/2007 3:22:35 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Petronski
I left my wallet in my other corporate jet.
87 posted on 05/30/2007 3:23:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Petronski

It’s not mine, it’s been floating around the internet for years and years. And is still funny I might add.


88 posted on 05/30/2007 3:40:34 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss
And is still funny I might add.

Nah, you're just sick enough to get giggles from mental retardation.

89 posted on 05/30/2007 3:42:54 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Assuming that you don’t get your paycheck from some form of banking enterprise, please enlighten the world as to the overwhelming positive benefits of the Federal Reserve System??? And no cutting and pasting from Wikipedia.


90 posted on 05/30/2007 3:47:24 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: Petronski

Yes your markedly feigned moral indignation is so moving.


91 posted on 05/30/2007 3:48:27 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss

I need to apologize to you for the schlong joke in my tagline. Rest assured, YOU are not the schlong referenced by the joke. There are many schlongs in this world, and you are but one of them.


92 posted on 05/30/2007 3:50:27 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: rednesss
Did you ever figure out that we don't pay the Federal Reserve $1 trillion every year? That we don't owe the Federal Reserve $9 trillion or $6.5 trillion?

Did you ever admit that the Fed isn't owned by a group of foreign bankers? That the stock only pays a 6% dividend?

Assuming that you don’t get your paycheck from some form of banking enterprise

If I did, would that make your posts any less wrong?

93 posted on 05/30/2007 3:50:53 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You need to do a little research on your 6% dividend figure as the holy grail of what the entire Federal Reserve System makes as “profit”. Dividends on the $100 per share that banks own in order to be members of the Federal Reserve is not the same as the amount of money that is siphoned away from John Q. Public.


94 posted on 05/30/2007 3:57:17 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: Moonman62; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Fed causes inflation.

It creates money out of thin air.

It is the US government’s charge card.

By creating and pumping dollars to banks it dilutes the value of existing dollars, in short it dilutes our savings (for those of us that still do that) and ultimately the value of our hard labor.

The Fed is behind what Ron Paul calls the inflation tax.

And it is a tax.

It’s a tax that gets added onto product pricing. This tax is called inflation.

We still have the power to shut down the Federal Reserve.

The Federal Reserve is no more ‘federal’ than Federal Express.

The federal reserve is a private banker’s cartel.

Bernanke is merely a liason between the Cartel and Congress.

When people go to get a mortgage loan or any loan, the bank does not find funds for the loan from other depositors.

The bank borrows money created from nothing from the ‘Federal’ Reserve. and it injects it into the economy, alot goes into housing.

Look at what happened to housing prices. People think they’re rich but then they look for another house and they see that prices are up all over. Those that act swiftly can make some dough on arbitrage of real estate. But most folks want to have a home and not a game of musical houses.

Who wins? The homeowner isn’t motivated to move if there is no price advantage. But when he/she gets their property tax bill in the mail and they see that their rent to their County just went through the roof because their home value went through the roof, then they know who won.

The Fed created all that.

The Counties and States and Government employees are the winners. Ask if your state has budget problems. Most states are flush with cash based on increases in property taxes. California is an exception because it is living way beyond its means.

We still have the power to shutdown the Federal Reserve.

Our Founding Fathers fought hard against allowing the establishment of a monopoly to create money out of thin air. They knew it would eventually control everything and it does.

The bankers want control and then they want more control. They can never get enough control.

Shutting down the Federal Reserve would get people out of debt, get them to save and stabilize the dollar.

Monetary functions of the Federal Reserve could easily be handled by the Treasury as it was historically.

In Amercican history the Fed was allowed to exist (1913) in return for allowing the government to impose an income tax (1913) on the very wealthy. JP Morgan was hated because he owned the town and all the stores in the town. He also determined who went to Heaven and Hell because he controlled many of the town’s churches.

The American People hated JP Morgan and his ilk.

So Morgan, Warberg and others made a deal to scam the People via a little routine bribery of Congress. The deal was simple. In return for paying an income tax of no more than 7% of income over $20,000, Morgan and others would have their money press, with US Gold as the reserve backing. With a gold reserve of 20%, Morgan and others could create 80% new money from nothing and loan it out at rates they set. The interest on those loans was much more than Morgan and others would ever pay in income tax.

And today the Fed (US Central Bank Cartel) has no gold to set a reserve, so they invent all manner of academic gobbledegook to measure however they define inflation to somehow control their money creation.

What a deal.

And now Americans are swimming in debt with a devaluing currency. But that’s not what is really scary. What is really scary involves demographics and yes the Fed had an indirect effect in causing the demographic tsunami that is on the horizon.

But that’s a whole other thread.

One last note.

Before the Fed gets shutdown, they will try and scare the bejeezus out of all Americans that think of voting for shutting them down. That will only be them trying to save themselves.

And what will America be like without the Fed? Find an American historian and ask what was America like before the ‘Fed’. Most people would be surprised that America was a wonderful place where life and living made sense.


95 posted on 05/30/2007 4:01:31 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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To: Petronski
Don't quit your day job. The movie was much funnier.


96 posted on 05/30/2007 4:02:10 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss
Yes your markedly feigned moral indignation is so moving.

You apparently believe EVERYONE laughs at mental retardation jokes, but only brave folks like you admit it, while the rest of us feign indignation.

That's a sick attitude.

97 posted on 05/30/2007 4:07:15 PM PDT by Petronski (Excuse me while I whip this out.)
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To: rednesss
You need to do a little research on your 6% dividend figure as the holy grail of what the entire Federal Reserve System makes as “profit”.

Please share the truth as you know it.

Dividends on the $100 per share that banks own in order to be members of the Federal Reserve is not the same as the amount of money that is siphoned away from John Q. Public.

Did you admit to your earlier errors? You're awfully slippery. Does the Fed siphon $1 trillion? LOL!

98 posted on 05/30/2007 4:07:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I don't think I ever said that the Fed was owned by a group of foreign bankers, however the major shareholders of the Federal Reserve are purported to be 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

Do you know??? Or will you just respond by saying "Is not"???

99 posted on 05/30/2007 4:09:40 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss
however the major shareholders of the Federal Reserve are purported to be 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

Purported? By whom?

Do you know???

Post #44.

100 posted on 05/30/2007 4:20:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so dumb?)
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