[Man50D]

Bipartisanship is code for sacrificing core conservative principles for socialism.

[azhenfud]

"Whenever a bipartisan consensus on this deeply controversial issue seems close at hand, fissures appear and ultimately nothing much happens."

America does not trust her lawmakers. America needs a serious attempt made at enforcement and border security before any other revision considerations.

[Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek]

I don’t recall other mentions of the provisions on the “Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America” in this proposed legislation. Can anyone else provide links that illuminate this?

Immigration ‘Compromise’ Sells Out Our Sovereignty
by Ron Paul
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst052507.htm

The much-vaunted Senate “compromise” on immigration is a compromise alright: a compromise of our laws, a compromise of our sovereignty, and a compromise of the Second Amendment. That anyone in Washington believes this is a credible approach to solving our immigration crisis suggests just how out of touch our political elites really are.

The reality is that this bill will grant amnesty to virtually all of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in the country today. Supporters use very creative language to try and convince us that amnesty is not really amnesty, but when individuals who have entered the United States illegally are granted citizenship – regardless of the fees they are charged – what you have is amnesty.

What is seldom discussed in the immigration debate, unfortunately, is the incentives the US government provides for people to enter the United States illegally. As we know well, when the government subsidizes something we get more of it. The government provides a myriad of federal welfare benefits to those who come to the US illegally, including food stamps and free medical care. Is this a way to discourage people from coming to the US illegally?

Additionally, one of the most absurd incentives for people to come to the US illegally is the promise of instant US citizenship to anyone born on our soil. That is why when Congress returns next week I will be re-introducing my Constitutional amendment to deny automatic citizenship to individuals born on US soil to parents who are not US citizens or who do not owe permanent allegiance to the United States.

There are many other very troubling items buried deep in the Senate’s immigration compromise. The bill explicitly calls for an “acceleration” of the March 2005 agreement between the US president, the president of Mexico, and the prime minister of Canada, known as the “Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) of North America.” This somewhat secretive agreement – a treaty in all but name – aims to erase the borders between the United States, Canada, and Mexico and threatens our sovereignty and national security. The SPP was agreed by the president without the participation of Congress. It should be eliminated, not accelerated!

According to the pro-Second Amendment Gun Owners of America, the legislation also makes it easier to target gun dealers for prosecution. Even gun clubs could find themselves targeted under this immigration reform legislation.

Immigration reform should start with improving our border protection, yet it was reported last week that the federal government has approved the recruitment of 120 of our best trained Border Patrol agents to go to Iraq to train Iraqis how to better defend their borders! This comes at a time when the National Guard troops participating in Operation Jump Start are being removed from border protection duties in Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas and preparing to deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan! It is an outrage and it will result in our borders being more vulnerable to illegal entry, including by terrorists.

I will continue to oppose any immigration bill that grants amnesty to illegals or undermines our liberty and sovereignty.

[TomGuy]

Team Bush 2, who brought you:

• the medicare prescription drug bill,
• the Kennedy-no-child-left-behind eduction bill,
• the largest open checkbook pork spending budgets in history,
• the social security reform [that foundered],
• the Campaign Finance Reform bill,
• the secretive Dubai Ports deal,
• the secretive TransHighway deal,
• the secretive North American Union deal,
• the secretive Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America,
• the Harriet Miers nomination for Supreme Court,

now brings you the Comprehensive Immigration Bill that really isn’t amnesty for illegals — honest, it isn’t — it is just regularizing them, giving them social security in 44 months (so what if you have to wait 40 quarters to qualify, where's your compassion for those poor illegals newly regularized Americans?), free health care (at your expense), free education (at your expense). Suck it up. It is good for America. We need more lettuce pickers because you Americans won't do that job and you are addicted to lettuce.


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[savedbygrace]

Mr. Bush, we no longer trust you to do your job. If we could, we’d fire you for malfeasance of office, because you have refused to secure the borders and enforce the immigration laws.

Also, last year’s border fence law required a fence to be built, and so far you have not seen to it that ANY of it is completed. And the immigration bill you are pimping reduces the amount of fencing way below the requirements of last year’s fence bill.

If the Dims were to begin impeachment, I would not defend you AT ALL.

[no dems]

O.K., Jorge; you’ve been in Washington too long and have become tainted. Get Laura and the dog and go on back to Crawford and turn the last two years over to Dick.

[hosepipe]

What happened to the Bushbots?..

Are they going Hamina hamina hamina like Jackie Gleason after one of his stupid decisions(NO VETOS) -OR- like Norton doing the clearing of the throat and pen holding bit(NO VETOS)????..

George Bush is the democrats secret weapon.. Eight years of "the" Clintons and eigth years of George Bush.. Has increased Socialismn in America greatly.. MORE under George Bush than under the Clintons.. Bush barely won in 2000, 2004 when the republican party was unified(more or less).. Bush has single handily smashed unity in the party like a car windshield to smithereens..

The Great White Hitlery is swimming in the Potomac (Jaws theme)..

[gubamyster]

ping

[truthkeeper]

This debate wasn't supposed to get so heated. When a bipartisan group of senators announced the immigration deal two weeks ago, Democrats and Republicans alike were predicting swift passage, perhaps before Memorial Day weekend. What gives?

Yeah, what's up with these pesky sheeple lately?