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To: dennisw
Why don't you tell me what the penalty is when an illegal gets his probationary Z VISA?

They have to pay the thousand dollars, and they have to continue to comply with the requirements of the Z visa to retain the visa, thus if they are unemployed and go on welfare, they will no longer be in status.

19 posted on 05/31/2007 7:45:44 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
[quote]They have to pay the thousand dollars, and they have to continue to comply with the requirements of the Z visa to retain the visa, thus if they are unemployed and go on welfare, they will no longer be in status.[/quote]

You are assuming that the bureaucracy that is unable to protect us from illegal immigration NOW, will suddenly be able to track the compliance to this New Bright Shiny Pill we are being told to swallow.

Right....

I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

27 posted on 05/31/2007 7:59:32 AM PDT by couch1971 (Stupid People shouldn't breed.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

The probationary Z VISA will cost little or nothing. This probationary visa must be given with 24 hours of being applied for unless there is a reason to turn down the applicant. This is an idiotic way of vetting these 12-20 million illegals

They later on will get their Z VISA which they can pay off monthly. I see $3000 so that $100/month to jump the line ahead of educated people who have waited years to legally immigrate here. There is no provision to deport or prosecute those who stop paying off their Z VISA

You will pay the legal bills of anyone who has Z VISA hassles

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3. If passed, this bill will make taxpayers pay the legal bills for illegal aliens seeking amnesty. Tucked away on page 317 is a provision that would allow lawyers in the federally-funded legal services program to represent illegal aliens, which they are presently barred from doing. SWEET!!!

4. This bill rewards illegal aliens for breaking our laws. There are tens of millions of people who respect our laws and our country, waiting patiently, in line, often in their home countries, to get a chance to come here. Under this bill, illegal aliens will immediately be eligible for a “Z Visa” which allows them to work, go to school, and — this is important — stay here for the rest of their lives if they so choose because there is no limit on the number of times it can be renewed. SWEET!

5. The bill gives the government only one business day to conduct a background check to determine whether an applicant is a criminal or a terrorist. It is impossible, of course, to determine in a single day whether someone is a terrorist or a criminal. SWEET!

6. In the bill Section 601(g)(2), illegal-alien gang members would be eligible for amnesty merely by signing a “renunciation of gang affiliation.” SWEET!

7. Gang-bangers and other criminals, who have been ordered to leave the United States by an immigration judge but defy the ruling, are called absconders. Section 601(d)(1)(I) permits U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to grant an absconder a Z visa anyway if he can show that being forced to leave the United States “would result in extreme hardship” to the alien, his spouse, parent or child. SWEET!!

8. The bill effectively shuts down our immigration-court system. If an alien in the removal process is eligible for the Z visa, the immigration judge must close the proceedings and offer the alien the chance to apply for the amnesty. SWEET!

9. If ICE officials apprehend an alien who appears eligible for the Z visa (in other words, just about any illegal alien), they can’t detain him. Instead, ICE must help him apply for the Z visa. SWEET!

Rather than initiating removal proceedings, ICE will be initiating amnesty applications. It’s like turning the Drug Enforcement Agency into a needle-distribution network. SWEET!

10. To qualify for the Z-visa amnesty, an illegal alien need only have a job (or be the parent, spouse, or child of someone with a job) and come up with a scrap of paper suggesting he was in the country before Jan. 1 of this year. Any bank statement, pay stub, or similarly forgeable record will do. SWEET!


30 posted on 05/31/2007 8:11:04 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Unam Sanctam
"They have to pay the thousand dollars, and they have to continue to comply with the requirements of the Z visa to retain the visa, thus if they are unemployed and go on welfare, they will no longer be in status."

A thousand dollar fine in order to make the basic crime go away is selling your nation far to cheaply. (We are told that the trip across the border costs 'poor but aspiring' peons three grand and up - a third of that is going to buy them legality?)

The presumption that losing a job and requiring welfare for any period of time would disallow future citizenship ignores the reasons for welfare and unemployment insurance. It also ignores the certain effect of thousands of lawiers making sure that no one was treated 'unfairly' just because you interpret the law in that manner.

As of today, 'merit' aside and laughing off the comment about needing PHd's, this bill is written around the lowest end of the immigrant spectrum. It will serve the Home Depot gangs so long as they file taxes and it will take no time at all for 'minor infractions' to be ignored (if discovered) by the bureaucracy Ms. Jacoby promises will arise from whole cloth and tax dollars.

37 posted on 05/31/2007 8:35:27 AM PDT by norton
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