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War is Coming to Tucson
Inside Tucson Business ^ | May 31, 2007 | Lionel Waxman

Posted on 05/31/2007 10:27:28 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

You are not going to like what I have to say today. But it must be said, out loud. People are whispering about it now, but if we don’t face up to it, it will only get worse.

The violent incident in Cananea, Sonora, has hit the consciousness of Tucson squarely between the eyes. Northern Mexico is in a state of war. Who is fighting? That’s hard to say. Officially, it is the drug- and people-traffickers against each other and the government. But in Mexico, you can’t tell the players even with a program. You cannot assume the police or the Army are loyal to their commands. Many are working on their own.

In case you were out of town two weeks ago, about 50 armed men drove into Cananea and killed five policemen and two other residents. The men fled into the hills with police and soldiers in pursuit. In subsequent gunfights, 16 more were killed.

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And here’s the part you don’t want to hear. Violence has spread across the border and has resulted in several deaths of Americans residents and visitors. Most such crimes are reported as isolated incidents. But the violence in northern Mexico is not stopping at the border. It’s headed this way and a lot of Tucsonans know it.

It is crossing the border because there is little to stop it. The Border Patrol is in virtual rebellion against its supervisors. They have felt betrayed by prosecution of some of them for what they see as doing their job. Union Local 2544 of the Border Patrol has published its position of “no confidence” in supervisory and command personnel. They have called a meeting (members only) for June 13 to consider their options.

(Excerpt) Read more at azbiz.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; cwii; immigration; marines; mexico
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More good news from the border /sarc
1 posted on 05/31/2007 10:27:28 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I have a fix! Have all the residents of AZ register and then turn in their guns! /s


2 posted on 05/31/2007 10:29:21 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

further south is sierra vista..betcha they’re feelin it moreso than tucson..


3 posted on 05/31/2007 10:32:05 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
we dont need no steenking badges, ping!
4 posted on 05/31/2007 10:33:32 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

We have thousands of soldiers in Iraq but none to protect our borders at home. Bush, you are beneath contempt.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 10:37:16 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

If Bush signs the stupid so-called “immigration bill” he should be impeached.


6 posted on 05/31/2007 10:38:09 AM PDT by heywaitadarnminute (This post happens between 12 AM and 12 PM)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Now we don't need /sarc tags to say...

Bush's Fault!

7 posted on 05/31/2007 10:38:47 AM PDT by MrEdd (L. Ron Gore creator of "Fry-n-tology" the global warming religion.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; SandRat; HiJinx

Wow. I’ll be there for 6 months in 08. Keep me updated on Cochise County goings on. This time I’ll bring more than just a Kel-Tec P3-AT .380 ACP.


8 posted on 05/31/2007 10:39:02 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims.Kill all child molesters RFN!)
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To: DCBryan1

I was there on two seperate occasions for a total of a year while workin at the fort..border patrol was always busy pickin people up..no matter when I went, when I rode my motorcycle sierra vista/bisbee/tombstone/sierra vista, I’d see 30-40 aliens bein picked up at different places on the road..

Don’t know where you’re gonna live, but the Oasis Apts are very nice..they rent short term too..


9 posted on 05/31/2007 10:44:27 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Lock and load.


10 posted on 05/31/2007 10:45:54 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Andonius_99

Are you pre-announcing your senators plan? Has McCain commented on this?


11 posted on 05/31/2007 10:46:23 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I think he’s a wee bit over the top on this. Cananea is a city (and surrounding area) of 32 thousand people, Tucson is a city (and surrounding area) of 1 million people. It’s a bit tougher to do some hit and run on a police station here, time it wrong and traffic on Grant will completely scuttle your get away. Not saying the stuff going on between the drug gangs and the coyotes can’t spread up here, just saying it’s a little tough to turn a city of 1 million that includes an Air Force base into a Mexican style rolling warzone town.


12 posted on 05/31/2007 10:48:32 AM PDT by discostu (only things a western savage understands are whiskey and rifles and an unarmed)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun

ping for later.
Facts?


13 posted on 05/31/2007 10:51:28 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
From the article:

The federal government should put troops on the border to defend the United States and its citizens. The troops should be given orders to use as much force as necessary to accomplish that task. No soldiers should be detailed to do paperwork and forbidden to fire on violators.

Actually protecting the states from invasion, as specified in Article IV, Section 4 of the US Constitution.

What a novel concept!

14 posted on 05/31/2007 10:52:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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The Border Patrol is in virtual rebellion against its supervisors. They have felt betrayed by prosecution of some of them for what they see as doing their job.

Blowback from the Ramos-Compean prosecution...

15 posted on 05/31/2007 10:54:16 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: DCBryan1
Suggest the following firearms to add. One large capacity .45 cal, with many mags, one 12 GA pump SG 19” barrel or shorter, and one M14 or as libs call it M1A1. Take your P3AT for backup.

What ammo do you shoot in the P3AT, I have one also.

16 posted on 05/31/2007 10:55:04 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: edcoil

oh, hell, he ain’t my senator - I’m all the way up here in CT and I’m using the same logic my senators would use...


17 posted on 05/31/2007 11:05:07 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: discostu

True. It won’t happen all at once. Mexico has slowly devolved into the current chaos. Tucson won’t be first, maybe Bisby or other smaller towns closer to the border will be the first to have armed gangs assassinate citizens, police, politicians and journalists. (Which is the pattern in Northern Mexico.)


18 posted on 05/31/2007 11:11:14 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

More bad news from Mexico every day.

Slayings of Juárez officer, agent put police on alert

http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_6024966
May 31, 2007


19 posted on 05/31/2007 11:11:36 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...

CW II ping.


20 posted on 05/31/2007 11:12:25 AM PDT by Jack Black
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