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Joke on MySpace costs Wal-Mart worker his job
Flint Journal ^ | 05/30/2007 | James L. Smith

Posted on 05/31/2007 11:23:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

ALMONT TWP. - When David Noordewier posted a joke on his MySpace page, he believed it was just a crude but funny bit of humor.

But his bosses at the Shelby Township Wal-Mart store weren't laughing.

The Almont Township man was fired from his cashier job Feb. 27 after posting the joke, which suggested average IQs would increase if a bomb were dropped on every Wal-Mart.

Noordewier said he was called into the office as soon as he arrived at work. Officials had him sign an acknowledgment that he was fired for "gross misconduct - integrity issue," which the company described as "theft, violent act, dishonesty or misappropriation of company assets," none of which Noordewier believes fits his situation.

"I told them that this was crazy," said Noordewier, 36. "It's not like I have a fighter jet in my backyard to drop a bomb with. Then they escorted me out to the parking lot."

Wal-Mart spokesperson Kory Lundberg would not discuss the incident except to say, "We can confirm the individual no longer works for Wal-Mart."

Noordewier said he believes a co-worker who disliked him copied the page and brought it to his boss' attention.

With a record of near-perfect attendance and exemplary customer service - which includes a personal thank-you letter from the company president in response to compliments from a customer Noordewier had helped - he said the firing came as a surprise.

To make matters worse, he did not get unemployment benefits, likely because of the form he signed. In the company's letter to the unemployment agency, they edited out all but the term "Drop a bomb on all the Walmarts," which put the comment well out of context, Noordewier said.

Unemployment officials said because of the "threat," Noordewier did not qualify for unemployment benefits.

It's not the first time comments posted online have caused problems for people.

A survey by CareerBuilder.com last year found that one in four business managers does Internet research on potential employees, and nearly 50 percent rejected applications because of something they found.

One in 10 employers browsed social networking sites, according to the survey, and among them, 63 percent found reasons to pitch a resume.

In some cases, a positive MySpace page had a different effect.

Employers also said online searches helped many candidates by showing professionalism and giving a good feel for someone's personality that seemed a fit for the company.

But Flint attorney Tom R. Pabst, who specializes in civil rights law, said Michigan law prohibits employers from gathering or keeping records on the off-duty activities or publications of employees and provides for monetary penalties for those that do.

"The law is meant to protect employees from an invasion of privacy from an employer," Pabst said.

The law was enacted because employers are not subject to the same constitutional prohibitions against warrantless searches and seizures as the government, Pabst said.

As for Noordewier's case, Pabst said that while he understands the need to be cautious about real threats, this seemed to fall short.

"I think this is a knee-jerk overreaction," Pabst said. "This could stigmatize him forever; you can't just blow it off. We need to be able to express ourselves freely without social McCarthyism."

The experience has taught Noordewier a couple of things, including that the First Amendment doesn't guarantee that everyone will get the joke and that a comment on the Internet can come back to haunt you.

"If you have a MySpace site, you better act like you're a politician: Be politically correct and don't try to be funny," Noordewier said.


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To: Responsibility2nd

Maybe he was talking about doing it when he was working.


21 posted on 05/31/2007 11:38:09 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: reagan_fanatic
That's why the REALLY smart ones go to K-Mart and the GAyP. :^)
22 posted on 05/31/2007 11:39:00 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t expect any privacy on the internet, even here.


23 posted on 05/31/2007 11:40:14 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: miliantnutcase

My favorite thing about being is Union is pointing out to the other Union toadys how nice the Union Boss’s salary and perks are,sorta like the perks the Director of the hospital gets....hehe

Oh and when it was time for contract talks and they all were talking about holding out for even more I reminded them what happened to the people working for Hershey that are now losing their jobs to Mexico.


24 posted on 05/31/2007 11:40:36 AM PDT by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: TonyRo76

Actually I have found the MySpace Music section to be fairly useful and I am 37.


25 posted on 05/31/2007 11:41:03 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"This could stigmatize him forever...

As could being a cashier at age 36.
26 posted on 05/31/2007 11:42:39 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
WalMart is right about the “integrity issue”. It’s not funny at all.

Next stop for this comedian...7-11, graveyard shift.

27 posted on 05/31/2007 11:44:12 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: AU72

>>>>Don’t write down anything you wouldn’t mind sharing with the whole world.<<<<

Winston Churchill said it best:

Never write when you can speak
Never speak when you can nod
Never nod when you can wink


28 posted on 05/31/2007 11:44:52 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

3 years and counting since I first heard about MySpace. And my personal boycott of that place remains intact!

I haven’t even visited the homepage. Why you may ask? Simply because it’s so freaking trendy, I refuse to visit it for that reason alone.

Besides, since when did it become so difficult to make a webpage (for FREE even) on your own? Maybe I don’t get it because I’m getting old and out of fashion.

Aaand I LIKE it that way!!!!!!


29 posted on 05/31/2007 11:45:40 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I've seen some of the people who frequent Wal-Mart.

Well, I guess I'd better go somewhere else to get my kids that five dollar "slip-n-slide" then. Sheesh.
30 posted on 05/31/2007 11:45:48 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: reagan_fanatic
I've seen some of the people who frequent Wal-Mart. He's right.

You must have passed by the full length mirror in the men's clothing department.

31 posted on 05/31/2007 11:50:58 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: linn37

Yeah, they never have anything to say about the Union boss pulling a six figure salary, multiple pensions..


32 posted on 05/31/2007 11:53:01 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Responsibility2nd
The guy is 36 years old and working as a cashier at a Wal Mart.

I suspect that the overall IQ at Wal-Mart went up a few points when he left the store.

33 posted on 05/31/2007 11:54:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: theDentist

IF the form was just an acknowledgement of WHY he was fired (that’s what the article says) it’s not why he isn’t getting unemployment. He didn’t admit anything other than that he was informed why he was fired.

He didn’t get unemployment because Walmart told the UO why he was fired, and the man hasn’t appealed that decision.


35 posted on 05/31/2007 12:12:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Responsibility2nd

A 36-year-old Wal-Mart cashier doesn’t see the irony in insulting the intelligence of people that could buy and sell his worthless butt. I’d wager that 99% of the customers he ridicules make far more money than he does. I also wager that 99% of the customers he ridicules are more intelligent than him as well.


36 posted on 05/31/2007 12:13:44 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Well, that wasn’t very nice.


37 posted on 05/31/2007 12:41:39 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Put illegals on ICE)
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To: miliantnutcase
They fire him AND want him to sign a document and he signs it lmao!

Something about this dork's story tells me that this wasn't the first bad decision he's ever made in his life.

38 posted on 05/31/2007 12:49:11 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: P-Marlowe

yeah but IQ tests are biased so who cares, right?


39 posted on 05/31/2007 1:46:12 PM PDT by zeke15
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To: reagan_fanatic
Well, that wasn’t very nice.

You set yourself up for that one.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

40 posted on 05/31/2007 4:25:51 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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