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Yes, we must hold the students' hand from the womb directly to the voting booth!

Deval is the gift that keeps on giving. But this doesn't go far enough. The kids need, at the very least, free housing and a spending allowance during their two-year community college stint. What's next? Guaranteed admission at an Ivy League school?

1 posted on 06/01/2007 5:20:48 AM PDT by Disturbin
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To: Disturbin

Why not? No doubt the illegals in Worcester are already going there for free.

And the Ma$$holes infecting NH are bringing this kind of nanny-state crap with them.

Time to cover up the “Live Free or Die” on my license plate, I guess.


2 posted on 06/01/2007 5:23:32 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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So Patrick plans on making them ‘free’ - does that mean he’s buying or are the teachers working for nothing? Nothing the government does is free.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 5:32:53 AM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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Given that community colleges serve mostly those who (1) cannot afford any 4 year college, (2) are not adequately prepared (either because of their own choices or the quality of the schools they attended) for 4 year colleges, and/or (3) are interested primarily in vocational education, I fail to see why making that available at no or virtually no cost is such a bad idea.

California community colleges (once called "junior colleges") have long been free or almost free (it was a $5 per semester fee plus your books in the 1960s) and were a godsend to generations of kids trying to get ahead.

The junior colleges provided outstanding remedial classes for those who weren't prepared before, and, in many of them, courses taught to University of California standards which were guaranteed to transfer to UC. (That was a big deal, students transferring from the California state college system to the University of California system would often find most of their credits would not transfer because UC faculty did not think the courses were remotely equivalent to the same named courses at UC -- they were right: I did research on a UC Academic Senate committee comparing reading lists and requirements for history courses and found the state college system courses typically required less than half the reading, less than 1/3 the writing, and often had multiple choice instead of essay exams)

I think providing good community colleges to give especially the poor a chance to prove themselves in a junior college is a very sound investment of public funds, if the taxpayers agree. In California, there was overwhelming support for the 'free JC' system.

4 posted on 06/01/2007 5:34:11 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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Mr. Patrick thinks that if you throw enough dough at something, it’ll get fixed.

Blacks and Hispanics have exceedingly high rates of births out of wedlock; both groups have a high intolerance for education; and, consequently, both groups have very low rates of high school graduation.

Free community colleges will not repair that.

A higher rate of in wedlock births will more than likely fix a large part of the problem.

Nothing is a better predictor of social pathologies than the out of wedlock birth rate.

How does one accomplish that? By taking responsibility for one’s actions.

Bill Cosby is hated for promoting this kind of thinking.

His suggestions:

1) Finish high school;
2) Get a job, and keep it;
3) Don’t get pregnant out of wedlock, or don’t get some one pregnant out of wedlock.

Not an easy road for a lot for these kids. But the difficult thing to do is oftentimes the right thing to do.

Raising taxes is easy, and incorrect toward repairing this difficulty.

My word, I’m fairly chatty today!


5 posted on 06/01/2007 5:36:38 AM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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“... the state struggles financially....”

What happened to the 2 billion surplus Gov Romney left behind? (Or however much Romney said the surplus was). Maybe it was like Dukakis’s Massachusetts Miracle?

As for what’s next, housing seems likely. Maybe free food and beer?

6 posted on 06/01/2007 5:52:33 AM PDT by DBrow
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Tax hikes are good for you! /sarc


7 posted on 06/01/2007 6:05:59 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Disturbin

Whew, it’s a different Patrick, not my role model for driving - Danica Patrick! ;-)


8 posted on 06/01/2007 6:10:45 AM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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Governor Deval Patrick plans to unveil a proposal today to make Massachusetts' community colleges, among the priciest in the nation, free to all high school graduates in the state...

Which means a diploma from Massachusetts' community colleges (among the priciest in the nation) will be worth as much as a high school diploma -- zip.

10 posted on 06/01/2007 6:23:01 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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15 posted on 06/01/2007 10:34:34 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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17 posted on 06/06/2007 7:58:25 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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