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To: rmlew

“they come from the same countries, live in the same communities and families, and are often the same exact people.”

Ummmm..No..They’re not.

‘Legal’ immigrants go through all the necessary procedures to come to America, uhh, legally.

“Illegal’ immigrants storm the back door and arrive by ‘stealth’ to push there way into our country because they feel it is their ‘right’ to be here and no American ‘laws’ are going to stop them.

Legal immigrants abide by the law.

Illegal immigrants don’t and are nothing more than criminals.


3 posted on 06/01/2007 9:06:31 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2
We all know this is all moot and a big shell game that the government is playing.

In the end the illegals will get everything that they and their proponents want and they not have to pay a penny or be punished in any way.

“Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.”

Or...

“Don’t pi$$ on my leg and tell me it is raining.”

This is a perfect example of how the average person gets screwed when the Liberals and Conservatives agree on something at the expense of the average person.

And there really aren’t checks and balances. At least right away. Wait until the next election.

I consider myself moderate and I am extremely unhappy with the Republicans right now. Starting with Bush. I might even consider switching parties. Unfortunately, the Democrats are screwing us too.

It is a perfect situation for a Perot type of candidate who will give Congress and the President back to the Democrats in 2008.

9 posted on 06/01/2007 9:29:36 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Bigh4u2
The point is that our legal immigration laws need to be changed. Legal is not necessarily good in terms of our current immigration policy. We need to change the rules.

Two Sides of the Same Coin--The Connection Between Legal and Illegal Immigration

10 posted on 06/01/2007 9:36:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Bigh4u2
Of course illegal aliens are undesireable. They flout the law and commit multiple felonies. However, they also use networks provided by legal immigrants and hide among them.
To paraphrase Mao, legals are water, and illegals are fish.
14 posted on 06/01/2007 10:16:30 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: Bigh4u2

“Legal immigrants abide by the law.”
“Illegal immigrants don’t and are nothing more than criminals.”

Myself and my lefal immigrant wife surely agree and understand the distinction. However ...

“they come from the same countries, live in the same communities and families, and are often the same exact people.”

Ummmm..No..They’re not.”

Ummm... yes, they are in many cases. He is making the point that illegal and legal immigration is often mixed.

My wife’s an immigrant and her brother, also a legal immigrant from Korea, married a woman who after a few years decided to destroy his life. she plotted to take his money, fake up an abuse claim by getting into a fight with him, and sued for divorce, in the process taking his money and his son (to get child support).

Thanks to our screwed up immigration system, she got one of those super duper deals for women who claim (often falsely) abuse - Instant residency and citizenship. Then she got her own Dad to come over. Probably she heas filed for a green card for him and he’ll be hree illegally until he gets to be ‘legal’. otoh thanks to z amnesty it will happen faster. he overstayed his tourist visa and his here illegally. Her sister came as well to have an ‘anchor baby’.

A huge plot just to get into the USA by abusing the legal immigration system where they can, and evade and break the law where it doesnt suit their purposes. Yes, the same people and the same family do both. That is why the media will sometimes talk of ‘mixed status’ families, which usually means ‘an illegal family that had an anchor baby’ or ‘a legal immigrant who decided to illegally bring the rest of the family’.

Further, that is why amnesty for 12 million will really mean 30 million more people in this country. If we fail to enforce immigration laws, then any of the worlds other 6 billion people have an invitation to come here, and they wont RSVP.


61 posted on 06/06/2007 4:13:11 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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