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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
This bill goes beyond amnesty. It legalizes illegals ahead of legal immigrants

Yeah, I know.

In addition to your list, it also forbids local LEOs from asking about immigration/visa status.

And if an illegal is somehow caught and brought before a deportation hearing, the immigration judge must offer the Z visa to that illegal, including preparation assistance. Of course since almost all illegals are technically eligible for a Z visa, immigration courts will become visa preparation shops.

Technically and in practice this meets the formal and legal definition of amnesty. Why?

(1) Local LOEs and immigration judges are prohibited from investigating or prosecuting what was formerly a crime, just as if our illegal entry laws never existed. (2) The law applies to an entire class of people, which is those who have committed the crime of illegal entry, illegal employment, and possibly other crimes (document fraud, etc).

The two foregoing conditions constitute "amnesty" by even the most formal and rigid legal definitions., since those conditions precede any application for a Z visa, and precede the payment of the $1,000 fine (that fine being the sole technical reason proponents can cling to the dubious argument that "it's not an amnesty").

Again, technical and legal amnesty conditions are met when (1) an act that was formerly a crime is nullified, and (b) that nullification applies to a definite class of people.

Thus the conditions for amnesty are met the moment the bill is signed into law, when it immediately nullifes our laws of illegal entry and prevents judicial prosecution of that crime for the entire class of illegal entrants in the United States.

Plain and simple, that's an amnesty.

108 posted on 06/03/2007 10:39:52 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

>>And if an illegal is somehow caught and brought before a deportation hearing, the immigration judge must offer the Z visa to that illegal, including preparation assistance. Of course since almost all illegals are technically eligible for a Z visa, immigration courts will become visa preparation shops.<<

Good point. Tony Snow’s argument for amnesty is that if we tried to deport millions of people, the courts, prosecutors, and law enforcement would grind to a halt. But the amnesty bill would keep them busy too.

Looks like if the amnesty bill passed, immigration officers would not even bother to do their jobs.


111 posted on 06/03/2007 5:00:03 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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