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To: calex59
Barnes has been supporting Bush for years on eliminating our Southern border.

"Barnes" or "Barf". Same difference on illegals.

Barnes is one reason I stopped watching Brit Hume's show.

Kondracke is the other.

There may be something to like in a antibiotic from China. Too bad the other 99.99% is contains nothing but poisons and toxins.

61 posted on 06/02/2007 11:15:52 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

“Barnes has been supporting Bush for years on eliminating our Southern border”

Eliminating the southern border might be the only way to fix this problem, send in the army and take over, perhaps all the way to Panama


86 posted on 06/02/2007 11:25:58 AM PDT by munin (The war on muslim terror=world war 3 time to let's roll Time to lube our guns with pork fat)
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To: Calvin Locke; calex59
Barnes has been supporting Bush for years on eliminating our Southern border.

This kind of delusion or willful intellectual dishonesty, coming from conservatives, just makes me sad.

Sure, you can argue that Bush and Congress have not done enough on border security, but then you'd have to deal with facts, which seems too much for many freepers. But to claim that Bush has made the border less secure -- leave alone the hyperbolic claim that he's "eliminating" it -- is just a flat out lie.

The fact is that Bush has so far more than doubled spending on border security, from 4.6 billion in 2001 to 10.4 billion in 2007; border patrol agents have been increased from 9,000 to 12,000, and thousands more will be added just in the coming year; thousands of beds have been added to detention facilities, eliminating the decades long practice of "catch and release;" deportations have gone up dramatically; and so on.

Again you may well argue that all this is not enough, and in fact I would agree with you. But don't lie, and caterwaul, like a leftist fer chrissake. Or maybe even worse, like calex59 at the top of the thread, start channeling algore and asserting that debating the relative value of this bill is out of bounds and any attempt to do so is a barfer.

160 posted on 06/02/2007 1:14:23 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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