Posted on 06/03/2007 4:39:15 AM PDT by Kaslin
Anyone who thinks Mormons do not worship Jesus has not read the Bood of Mormon. The statement that Mormons worship “different gods” is one of pure ignorance.
I am LDS. I would vote for Romney before I would vote for any Democrat. But in the primary I would not vote for Romney. I question the character of any man who is LDS who can support abortion or homosexual “marriage”. The only argument I can think of that could be made in favor of these things would be based on Libertarian principles. In the case of abortion and homosexual “marriage” the Libertarian arument just doesn’t cut it.
Mormons are good people who live by a high moral standard. Certainly no less so than Catholics or Jews. There are only two mainstream religions that poses a threat to our “standard” of living and quality of life: Islam and Liberalism.
I think we ought to shift our focus.
I guess John 3:16 is right out for you, then.
Therefore anyone who holds that we should be tolerant above all other concerns must realize that they as speaking non-sense.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16
WAAAAY too much as evidenced by this and other threads. So many lies, and so many who cling to them. It is a wonder the Savior survived 33 years. If He came today as he did in the Meridian of time, the result would be the same, only much quicker. Hence he will come in his glory, which should take care of everyone’s questions.
Of course. And before you go there, no He didn’t boink Mary.
That said, there was a time when heresy was considered quite a real problem. St Peter is said to have left a building after learning that a famous heretic was in there. He said that the building might be hit by lightening. Today there are many who claim to be Christian and it is actually our Christian duty to warn them of their impending doom. But that is no longer fashionable since the Reformation.
Back in the 2nd century such notable Bishops as St Ireaneus and St Justin Martyr spoke of the Holy Catholic Church. Jesus prayed for unity among his followers. That prayer should rebound today, because there is little unity among those who claim the name of Jesus.
You can read in Eusebius that the early fathers of the Church taught that one of the earliest heresies was one that claimed that all you have to do to be saved is profess the name of Jesus and live a good life. That sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Every Mormon agrees. Fully and wholeheartedly.
Who are the committed Christians among the current candidates? Look for the fruit. Because we are considering the candidates on their leadership qualities, judge them against the criteria that Paul set forth for a bishop in 1 Timothy 3: "blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; . . ."
Why cannot evangelicals such as this writer obey Jesus Christ in the simplest and clearest matters?
(Remember: the name of the church Romney belongs to is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, not the Church of Mormons.)
Some conservatives are afraid to be seen as bigots and therefore will not stand up for Christianity in public. Some conservatives know very little about Christianity and so they don’t care if a candidate is Christian or not. Some conservatives buy into the Public Relations lie that Mormons are “good people.” As a post-Mormon (new word, I like it), let me tell you that Mormons are sinful people just like all people....they ain’t nothin’ speeshul.
There are a good number of conservative who are devout Christians who have researched the claims of Mormonism, and know that while they profess to be christian, they also profess to be the ONLY true Christians (and what does that make the rest of us). They will not vote for Romney. If we lose those conservatives, Romney is toast! It doesn’t matter if you think it is bigoted, stupid, wrong, or not Christian. It is simply the truth. Romney cannot win the Presidency regardless of how good looking he is or how much of that 1% of the United States that is Mormon vote for him (they overwhelmingly vote conservative anyway).
We would be sending a tainted candidate to the election. Regardless of how perfect he “appears” to be, and believe me he doesn’t appear perfect, he appears to be a flipping RINO!!
It just ain’t smart folks.
So what would a Mormon President insist that you do that you wouldn't believe in? Your statement doesn't make any sense.
Mormons believe that God was once a man, who through good works and became God.
That means God has a father, and God also has a grandfather, too.
All these three gods are ‘gods’ over a planet, the way that God, Elohim, is ‘god’ over Earth.
Hmmm, where to begin? First of all, everything that you posted is supposition with no scriptural backing. Second, Elohim is God of the Universe not just a planet. Third, Mormons goal is to become One with Elohim, Christ and the Holy Spirit.
While I don’t have a problem with the moral views of Mormons, I do have a problem with people calling Mormonism ‘christianity’, cus it sure aint.
What is your definition of Christianity and how does it differ from the Mormons? Can you show me the differences scripturally? I already know that you can't so please stop spreading lies. (I am just trying to condense the discussion ^_^)
Okay. Let's not go there. Whenever I ask Christians this question, I get the same runaround.
How are you standing up for Christianity by disobeying Jesus Christ?
Why do you judge Romney (and other Mormons) unrighteously? Why do you not judge the heart and look for the fruit of the Holy Spirit?
Ping to read later
We are not the judge over whether someone is a follower of Christ or not, so I don’t know about Romney. I AM told to look at his fruits. He professes to follow Mormonism and so I must look to Mormonism to determine if his fig tree is bearing thistles or not.
It bears thistles. Anyone who can distinguish the difference between the Jesus Christ of the Bible and the false ‘prophets’ that the Bible warns us will come, can see that Mormonism fits into the category that follow false “prophets.” Now if Romney professes to follow these, then I must assume he is not Christian. There are fruits other than if he is cute, has had a one wife, or five children, has made tons of money, or claims to be almost perfect. Fruits also refer to the tree it grows on. His tree ain’t a fruit bearer.
Okay, I have to ask this question. Why would an ostensibly non-Christian faith call themselves The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? I keep reading this on FR, that "oh because they believe God was once a man" or "they wear funny, thongless underwear" or "they put their pants on two legs at a time", they aren't a Christian faith.
The rest of you non-Mormon FReepers are all experts on the LDS faith, so are you asserting that Mormons, on top of being "un-Christian cultists" are also liars as well?
Jews and Christians worship the same God, Mormons worship different gods.
Muslims also worship the same God of Abraham. Clearly we have a disconnect here, because I don't think that the author is advocating voting for Muslims or even Jews for that matter.
So the question is whose beliefs are closer to Mainstream Fundamentalists who believe in the Nicaean Creed? Jews only believe in Elohim, one out of three. The same for the Muslims. (I am not sure about the Jews and Muslims belief in the Holy Spirit, so please forgive my ignorance) Mormons believe in all three, Elohim, Christ and the Holy Spirit. They even believe that they are one, and there is no Mormon scripture that contradicts that statement. Most of what you read from anti-Mormons sites is just supposition.
Is this merely the Catholic perspective, or something all Christians subscribe to? It's difficult to find a consensus of doctrine among the various intrepretations out there.
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