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Immigration push tests GOP base
denverpost.com ^ | 06/02/2007 | Jim Rutenberg and Carl Hulse

Posted on 06/04/2007 5:01:11 AM PDT by VU4G10

Washington - President Bush's advocacy of an overhaul of immigration law and his attacks on critics of the plan are provoking a backlash from conservatives who form the bulwark of his remaining support, splintering his base and exposing divisions within a party whose unity has been the envy of Democrats.

It has pitted some of Bush's most stalwart congressional and grassroots backers against him, sparking a vitriol that has at times exceeded anything seen yet between Bush and his supporters, who have generally stood with him through the toughest patches of his presidency.

Those supporters now view him as pursuing amnesty for foreign lawbreakers when they say he should be focusing on border security.

Postings on conservative websites have gone so far as to call for Bush's impeachment, and usually friendly radio hosts, commentators and congressional allies warn that he could lose supporters at a time when he needs all the backing he can get on other matters, like Iraq.

Last week, in discussing Bush's recent comments accusing conservative critics of the immigration legislation of fear- mongering, Rush Limbaugh told listeners: "I just wish he hadn't done it, because he's not going to lose me on Iraq, and he's not going to lose me on national security. But he might lose some of you."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigrantlist
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 5:01:12 AM PDT by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

These references from the elite in Washington about those opposing their amnesty for illegals:

Nativists, xenophobic/xenaphobes, misinformed [Tony Snow, et al]

Bigots [Lindsey Graham]

Vigilantes, unamerican and unpatriotic [George W Bush]

...represent a small segment of public opinion [Jon Kyl]

Threatens that riots may occur if laws are enforced [John McCain]


2 posted on 06/04/2007 5:12:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: VU4G10

Why does Limbaugh still call this a democrat bill? He makes sounds like he’s against this bill but continues to claim the democrats wrote the bill.


3 posted on 06/04/2007 5:13:43 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: VU4G10

Test? More like an all out assault.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 5:13:47 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A proud member of El Presidente's racist bigot vigilante league.)
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To: VU4G10
I would love to believe Bush is playing this immigration bill for all it's worth just to get the conservative base fired up knowing we'd come out swinging, to make this thing DOA, but I fear he actually believes this monstrosity of crap is the right thing!

I'm going to be touting this til the cows come home:

Moderates Be Gone!!!!

5 posted on 06/04/2007 5:15:07 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: raybbr
Hello , Ted and La Raza co-wrote the Bill . The Wash Times had an article on this last week . This radical left wing separatist group called the “ Th Race “ in spanish has veto power over all changes . Are you scared yet ?
6 posted on 06/04/2007 5:18:42 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: VU4G10

In between elections, they can piss off the base all they want.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 5:21:39 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: VU4G10
These two reporters are NY Slimes DNC operatives so this is a NY Slimes propaganda article.
These two Clintonites are Bush haters /
The Denver Post is the Pravda of the mountain states .
8 posted on 06/04/2007 5:21:47 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: VU4G10
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

9 posted on 06/04/2007 5:27:03 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: TomGuy
I am not a bigot, or a Nativist, xenophobic, or misinformed, I am a crime victim and know full well about the government's penchant for REWARDING lawbreakers for supposed 'good' behavior.

Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist.” Thomas Sowell

10 posted on 06/04/2007 5:27:10 AM PDT by GailA (I'm a quilt-a-holic, and proud of it.)
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To: BurtSB
These two reporters are NY Slimes DNC operatives so this is a NY Slimes propaganda article.
These two Clintonites are Bush haters.

Unfortunately, a simple "consider the source..." brush-off won't work on this issue. These reporters may indeed hate the President - but that just means that they derive smug satisfaction from writing:

"It has pitted some of Bush's most stalwart congressional and grassroots backers against him, sparking a vitriol that has at times exceeded anything seen yet between Bush and his supporters, who have generally stood with him through the toughest patches of his presidency.

Those supporters now view him as pursuing amnesty for foreign lawbreakers when they say he should be focusing on border security."

I sure wish that their biased opinions of George W. Bush had colored the preceding text, but that does not appear to be the case. Sure, the Democrats are loving this... we'd be reveling in it too, were the positions reversed.

11 posted on 06/04/2007 5:32:28 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: BurtSB
Hello , Ted and La Raza co-wrote the Bill . The Wash Times had an article on this last week .

Immigration Sellout, Not Reform (Phyllis Schlafly condemns Kennedy-Kyl Amnesty Bill).

And then there's this:

Deputy White House chief of staff, Joel Kaplan, a key negotiator in the Senate immigration bill,K

And this:

Survival of the deal that would allow 12 million unlawful immigrants to stay in the U.S. legally - regarded as the best chance to overhaul immigration this year - depends in large part on how effective this "Gang of 12" is in insulating the plan from major changes. The team grows or shrinks according to what the issues are. At its core are the unlikely partners who cut the deal, led by liberal Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and conservative Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz. Assistance comes from GOP centrist Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, Mel Martinez of Florida and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.

This is in no way a "democrat" bill. It was partly composed in the White House with plenty of "republicans" in attendance.

12 posted on 06/04/2007 5:38:44 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: BurtSB
Are you scared yet ?

I am just as afraid of La Raza as I am of those who refuse to the truth behind this bill.

13 posted on 06/04/2007 5:46:02 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
Why does Limbaugh still call this a democrat bill?

Because Limbaugh is just a Water Boy for the Republican Elite these days...as he admitted himself.
14 posted on 06/04/2007 5:47:07 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: raybbr

If we had 41 votes it would be a democrat bill, the pubbies can’t even hold 41 votes to prevent the destruction of their own party.


15 posted on 06/04/2007 5:50:23 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: VU4G10

Limbaugh calls it a Democrat bill because he believes Bush cut a deal trading White House support for immigration amnesty in exchange for Democrat support for war funding.

However, immigration quotas is the only way this thing will be palatable to the American people, Democrat or Republican or Independent


16 posted on 06/04/2007 6:05:20 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: sirchtruth

I’m with you. For the longest time I thought I smelled Harried Meiers here - trot out something that is not the best and fire up the troops to fight to get the best. But I thing I have given up on that. God help us.


17 posted on 06/04/2007 6:18:19 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: raybbr

The amnesty part is demanded by Kennedy and democrats, If you recall, Bush just wanted a guest worker program, matching employers and workers. but the Dems took Congress, and as Rush says, elections have consequences.


18 posted on 06/04/2007 6:24:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: raybbr

If these are good people whom we should be honored to have among us, why do they have La Raza? Doesn’t look good to me.


19 posted on 06/04/2007 6:27:22 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: twonie

All this bogus talk about dissent by Dems during the Iraq war, and now we see their true colors. They are scared to death of dissent and debate. This uproar will benefit both immigration policy and the Republican party if all the doomssayers will hold onto their hats and participate in the process to get the best possible outcome. There is a long way to go and many steps in the sausage making process. Stay engaged, learn more, look for better ideas. Size up the players and avoid meaningless pat slogans.


20 posted on 06/04/2007 6:31:50 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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