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Life with the Losers.As post-abortion theater, Knocked Up is encouraging. But . . . .
national review ^ | 6/4/07 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/04/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by finnman69

It’s a little bit of a stretch to find a whole lot to admire in this weekend’s box-office success Knocked Up. In it, as you can guess, the leading lady (not exactly the right word), Alison Scott, played by Grey’s Anatomy beauty Katherine Heigl, gets knocked up after a drunken one-night stand with an unemployed 23-year-old slacker super-sized bonger slob (Seth Rogan). The f-word works overtime in the script, there’s lying, and Ryan Seacrest.

And Ryan Seacrest may be the most admirable character in the movie — he makes fun of himself in his cameo. The fictional characters, on the other hand, are all self-obsessed — parents acting like children, grandparents appearing long enough to make clear these twenty- and thirty-somethings didn’t have the best examples growing up.

But when Ben’s slacker housemate (one of four, most of whom are mean and dirty, in all senses of the word) Jonah suggests the “A” word to father-to-be Ben Stone (who usually is stoned), his couch-potato crude loser friends can’t even contemplate the possibility. They even voice the word “kill.” Though Ben is very upset when Alison announces that her dozen or so drug-store pregnancy tests indicate she’s pregnant, he quickly realizes he reacted badly and slowly rises to the occasion — in the traditional ways, and also in ways you’d expect the director of The 40-Year-Old Virgin (Judd Apatow) to show you. When Joanna Kerns (formerly the mom on Growing Pains) tells her daughter Alison to do what her sister did — think of her career (she’s an on-air interviewer at E!) and have a “real baby” later, when the time is “right” — there’s no question you’re repulsed. Alison’s going to choose to keep the baby and — besides there being no movie if she doesn’t — she doesn’t even seem to seriously consider the option. There’s no anti-abortion speech, she just does it: She just chooses to take responsibility for her remarkably irresponsible night out. She calls Ben and he sweetly provides support, echoing the words of his thrice-divorced but loving father (played by Harold Ramis).

In Knocked Up abortion is presented as an option whose time has come and gone. You don’t get a baby “taken care of,” not when you can see the little one and her heartbeat on a monitor on the first post-conception doctor visit. Not when even loser Ben’s dad can tell him he’s the “best thing that ever happened” to him. Not when we know that Alison’s sister had an unexpected pregnancy, and that Alison wouldn’t have that beautiful but bratty six-year-old niece she loves.

That’s the refreshing part of the movie: There’s no question it embraces life. If you stretched optimism a little bit further you would see some kind of ode to marriage in it. First off, even Ben, whose only real relationship is with his bong, thinks he should “make an honest woman” out of Alison — proposing to her with an empty box and a promise that there’s a ring to come if he ever makes a killing off his “job” (a not-yet-launched website showing hot actresses in their movie nude scenes). And instead of laughing at the sitcom model of bitchy wife (played by Leslie Mann) abusing the nice-guy husband (Paul Rudd), we watch a mean wife nearly ruin her marriage. While hitting a club to celebrate her sister’s promotion (and her whole source of confidence being that she knows men there would want to have sex with her), she’s got her own husband so unhappy he feels the need to lie to her about his fantasy baseball league. (Not that he’s a model husband either; he lies about going to work when he’s actually going to a movie.)

The only reason we have hope for these characters is the baby, who only appears at the end. The baby doesn’t destroy Alison’s career. The baby nurtures a love between Alison and Ben, a very unlikely couple. The baby ultimately brings the unhappily married (for no real good reason) Debbie and Peter back together.

But as delighted as I am for the Knocked Up message that sex has consequences (including unexpected joy and transformative love) and parents have responsibilities, there’s something about Knocked Up that still leaves one a bit disturbed — and a little depressed. It’s pro-life and pro-marriage in its crude way. And it’s important that Hollywood isn’t making pro-life, pro-marriage movies just for more conservative audiences. Maybe I’m getting old, but it seems to me that the Wedding-Crashers-40-Year-Old-Virgin crass-blockbuster fun has been had. While I’m all for redeeming messages (keep the baby, love the child, take some responsibility for your life) reaching us where we’re at, if this is where the culture is — 23-year-olds filling gas masks with marijuana smoke — is it really an excessively laughing matter? (And I say this as someone on record as excessively tolerant.) With vagina shots and jokes and a bit of a celebration of loserism, Knocked Up ultimately allows its beautiful aspects to be overpowered by its disturbing ones. It isn’t a likable-loser crude comedy. It’s a this-genre-may-have-just-hit-rock-bottom comedy.


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I have to admit, reading a political message out of this movie is not what the movie maker intended, nor was it what I got out of the movie. frankly, I just laughed my ass off in one of the funniest most entertaining movies I have ever seen. this is THE movie to see this summer. If you loved 40 year old virgin, this was 10 times better.

the crowd where I saw it was mixed and everyone was laughint out loud. In fact I missed some good lines there was so much laughing.

1 posted on 06/04/2007 10:50:37 AM PDT by finnman69
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To: finnman69

I saw The 40 Year Old Virgin 2 weeks ago. Lordy, I could not stop laughing! That was some funny shizzle!


2 posted on 06/04/2007 10:55:42 AM PDT by 007girl
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I also have to disagree with the assessment that this hit rock bottom in crudity. Yes there are dirty jokes, lots of them. But the banter between the characters is just so so good, the writing was excellent. Almost every line was a memorable line. Very much in the style of wedding crashers and 40 year old virgin. refreshing to have a comedy w/o Will Ferrell BTW. Many actors from 40YOV are back in this movie.

Another comparison I made, is in real life this movie is not likely to happen, but isomehow the 40YOV story was.

Loved this movie.


3 posted on 06/04/2007 10:56:19 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: finnman69

I imagine it’s a stupid movie just like so many out there.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 11:03:07 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: finnman69

It sounds like a good exhibition of typical Boston-area college kids. Complete idiots who will eventually want everything that conservatism has to offer, but only “someday”.

While they are young, they pride themselves in liberal-everything, until forced to deal with the aftermath.


5 posted on 06/04/2007 11:15:31 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: finnman69

I love Steve Carell but 40 year old virgin was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. The F bomb was dropped so many times it was ridiculous and I’m no prude. I turned it off after 30 minutes.


6 posted on 06/04/2007 11:15:42 AM PDT by TightyRighty (July 21, 2007 - The End Is Near)
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To: finnman69

It’s hilarious, but I hard a hard time getting past a young, beautiful, focused, ambitious Katherine Heigl going for the slacker, dope-addled Rogen character. She’d have been better off having the baby on her own.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 11:18:05 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: finnman69

She hit the nail on the head. There IS this very strong pro-life message, but they really went overboard with the graphic nature of some of the scenes. Also the profanity: the f-bomb just isn’t funny. The only times I’ve seen the f-bomb actually carry a funny scene came during “Planes Trains and Automobiles”, and “GlenGarry Glen Ross”.

But the continuous profanity kept draining my sympathy for these two. You root for Seth Rogan because you just know he’s going to come around, but getting there is so painful at times, it’s almost not worth the trip.

I’ve been a big fan of Judd Apatow since “Freaks and Geeks”, but I think he sold out to the “gross-out” genre instead of building a great movie around smart - not tasteless - dialogue and imagery.


8 posted on 06/04/2007 11:24:07 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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I am embarrassed to say that I actually bought that movie.

I thought it was funny the first time, but the second time around, it was just too much....and I am not very picky at all.

I loved Wedding Crashers, Old School etc.

The Bruce Almighty sequel looks good though.


9 posted on 06/04/2007 11:25:57 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: Rummyfan

Agreed, totally unbelievable. But hilarious anyway.

It definitely was a chick flick in disguise.


10 posted on 06/04/2007 11:27:11 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Freaks and Geeks....I remember that. Great show.


11 posted on 06/04/2007 11:27:25 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: finnman69

Hilarious but meaningful movie. I saw it with a friend and will see it again with my husband soon—the movie is sort of repulsive in a lot of ways but it also definitely presents abortion as a repulsive, horrifying “solution.”

(I don’t use foul language, ever, but didn’t even notice the movie’s bad language, really.)


12 posted on 06/04/2007 11:28:25 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: TightyRighty

Hey, they went for it. It was a R rated movie, and it will still end up being a huge huge hit.


13 posted on 06/04/2007 11:29:52 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: olivia3boys

I didn’t think there was all that much cursing. Just a lot of dirty jokes and dirty references.


14 posted on 06/04/2007 11:31:32 AM PDT by finnman69 (May Paris Hilton’s plane crash into Britney Spears house while Lindsey Lohan is over doing coke)
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To: finnman69

Agree, agree! Profane but smart, hilarious dialogue.


15 posted on 06/04/2007 11:32:34 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Rutles4Ever
I’ve seen the f-bomb actually carry a funny scene came during “Planes Trains and Automobiles”, and “GlenGarry Glen Ross”.

If you liked GlenGarry GlenRoss, you'll love this.

Glen & Gary & Glen & Ross (Warning: Extreme Profanity, but very funny)

16 posted on 06/04/2007 11:35:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Rummyfan

I thought Ben’s transformation from uncouth loser to employed, protective, decent, nice guy was believable. By the end of the movie he was even actually attractive and worthy of the goddess in all respects. (And, for the record, this is a woman’s point of view.)


17 posted on 06/04/2007 11:38:40 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: rwfromkansas

Yeah, I saw the previews for that - it looks cute but I’ll probably wait to rent it. At $10.00 a pop I’ve become a bit more discriminating in the movies I go to see.


18 posted on 06/04/2007 11:41:26 AM PDT by TightyRighty (July 21, 2007 - The End Is Near)
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To: Rutles4Ever

What’s good about the movie is that its pro-life message is hip and potent and will be delivered to an audience that usually hears only the opposite.


19 posted on 06/04/2007 11:42:26 AM PDT by fullchroma
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Do you not have a local dollar theater? It costs 2.50 at a theater in Wichita with the movies coming out a month or so after they stop playing elsewhere.


20 posted on 06/04/2007 11:43:41 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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