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Roy Rogers' America (Duncan Hunter - 1998)
House.gov ^ | July 10, 1998 | Duncan and Bob Hunter

Posted on 06/05/2007 10:05:20 AM PDT by pissant

Roy Rogers' recent death, untimely to millions of Americans who loved him, was, in a tragic sense, symbolic of the death of an era of wholesome television entertainment. Actually, the era of good TV has long since passed.

But the black and white clips of Roy Rogers' Hollywood in this week's memorial reviews, provide a jolting look at how far we have slipped.

Roy Rogers was wholesome. His episodes never offended decency. Any child could watch Roy Rogers without a nervous parent monitoring the show to quickly "click off" the bad parts as is so necessary with TV today.

Roy used good language and was never profane. In his films, he unfailingly demonstrated his own fidelity to courage, honesty, and the Christian value of helping one's neighbor.

Roy's weekly mission of "rounding up the bad guys" was always altruistic; self-reward was noticeably absent. His treatment of women was always courteous and respectful. The frontier image of manhood was effectively reflected by Roy Rogers in such a way that any boy emanating him would receive an "A" in civility from his mom.

This in contrast to the recent newspaper headline which read: "11-Year-Old Who Raped 5-Year-Old Says He Learned Sex From Cable TV."

Roy Rogers has been criticized by today's film makers as unrealistic. "Filthy words, savage attacks on women, and selfishness as the primary human motivator," they argue, "represent the real America and are box office winners."

This is, at once, the real lie of Hollywood and its dereliction of duty.

"America is great, because America is good," wrote the Frenchman Alexis De Tocqueville several hundred years ago. His assessment of American character has since been validated a million times: The nation that left 38,000 Americans dead and wounded in one day at Antietam Creek to free the slaves; MacArthur's G.I.s walking the streets of a defeated Tokyo and, instead of returning the brutality of Tojo's forces, handing out Hershey's bars to Japanese children as prelude to massive humanitarian aid; tens of thousands of American service clubs, charities, churches, and individuals, giving help, food, medical aid and comfort during every major disaster this century.

Indeed, Americans give more in charitable donations than all the other nations of the world combined.

Who is right, Roy Rogers or the cynics? The undeniable, historic record of the "good America" of Roy Rogers justifies the next question: Which qualities are the more appropriate model for our TV-viewing children, Roy Rogers' or the cynics'?

Roy Rogers' America did exist and still does.

Every time a boy addresses a woman as "Ma'am," an elder as "Sir," every time there is an act of kindness, every time honesty is practiced, every time one fights valiantly for what is right...Roy Rogers' America exists. And we win.

Happy Trails Roy.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Hunter is the Congressman's father


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: cowboys; daleevans; duncanhunter; hunter; moralabsolutes; royrogers
Sounds a bit like the Gipper with his love for all that is good in America.


1 posted on 06/05/2007 10:05:22 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

2 posted on 06/05/2007 10:07:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant

While there was only one Reagan, Hunter certainly comes closest.


3 posted on 06/05/2007 10:11:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

Duncan Hunter raise the bar of integrity for the other candidates.


4 posted on 06/05/2007 10:11:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cripplecreek

He certainly holds the same values and beliefs in American goodness.


5 posted on 06/05/2007 10:11:55 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Calpernia

Yep. Not too many apperances for GLAAD and NARAL on his schedule.


6 posted on 06/05/2007 10:16:41 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Calpernia

Roy Rogers, a man who got in a fist fight during every show, shot bad guys with his guns and had an attack dog that bites. I loved watching his show. It was the best kids western of all time. I wish there was something as good for my 7 year old to watch.


7 posted on 06/05/2007 10:35:13 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: pissant
Happy Trails Roy.

I recall old America too.

It was great.

8 posted on 06/05/2007 10:38:13 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Roy was before my time. I watched Gunsmoke and The Lone ranger though.


9 posted on 06/05/2007 10:40:49 AM PDT by pissant
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To: dragnet2
I recall old America too.

It was great.

I miss it.

10 posted on 06/05/2007 10:48:41 AM PDT by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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To: dragnet2
Yesterday my wife and I ate at Roy Rogers restaurant. I was great, best roast beef sandwiches anywhere. But it to has changed. Gone are the barrel seats and wagon wheel decor, the young ladies behind the counter wear cowboy hats are gone, they use to say “Howdy partner how may I help you”, but at least you can still get a “holster” of fries. Large fry served in a cardboard holster.

It’s a shame that the westerns are gone, they taught good values and individual responsibility...

I guess that’s why we done see them...

11 posted on 06/05/2007 10:48:45 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: pissant

>>>Roy was before my time.

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVgkcW0luc0
Roy Rogers, Dale Evans & Perry Como: Happy Trails


12 posted on 06/05/2007 10:50:06 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: pissant
Wholesome tv is fine, especially for kids, but adults deserve entertainment, too, and it doesn't have to be rated G.

Do we all have to watch dopey cowboy shows, or can we maybe have wholesome kiddie shows on the wholesome kiddie show channel and then entertainment for grownups on a different channel?

Oh wait, that's what we have now. Yo Duncan, turn on Nickelodeon. No cuss words or anything!

13 posted on 06/05/2007 10:54:18 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: FlatLandBeer
I remember Roy Rogers Restaurants from when I was a kid. They've been long gone from my area.

Come to think of it, most of my heroes are also long gone.

14 posted on 06/05/2007 10:55:32 AM PDT by Smittie
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To: pissant
Noted the July 1998 byline....I remember the day well, because wifey and I were up in her childhood home area, visiting.

We heard it on the radio while driving to Alexandria, Minnesota to go antiquing (that town crawls with antique stores), and I thought I smelled an opportunity to snatch up some cheap memorabilia.

Even within the two hours of the report of his death, I was too late - anything and everything Roy Rogers was really marked UP.

15 posted on 06/05/2007 10:57:05 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Huck

Are Gray’s Anatomy, Desperate Houswives, and Will and Grace preferable to shows like Gunsmoke, Get Smart, and Wild Wild West? I thought not.


16 posted on 06/05/2007 10:57:42 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Yup, Roy was great... when you were 10.

Then you grow up and wonder why you ever watched.

17 posted on 06/05/2007 11:00:14 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

His point was a little broader than praising a good kids TV show.


18 posted on 06/05/2007 11:01:37 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Huck
I'm with you and I'm an old fart who grew up on all that really bad TV from the fifties.

Let's face facts: In the fifties TV was still in its vaudville stage. There were some good shows, but in retrospect many were really, really bad.

19 posted on 06/05/2007 11:05:53 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: pissant
Gray’s Anatomy--never seen it
Desperate Houswives--never seen it
Will and Grace--never seen it

Gunsmoke--I've seen a couple of reruns. Horrible show. Basically a corny drama set in the west. you can have it.
Get Smart--camp humor only goes so far. couple of good gags here and there.
Wild Wild West--never seen it

Truthfully, I don't really watch tv shows. I find them to be a waste of precious time. I like movies, and the movies I like are often times not rated G. I watched "Millers Crossing" on tv last night for the umpteenth time. Great movie, great cast, definitely not wholesome.

I can understand nostalgia for wholesome shows. When I was a kid in the 70s, we had The Waltons and Little House on the Prairie. I don't really think that kind of thing sells anymore. It's not like tv networks are jamming stuff down our throats. They have to get ratings to succeed. The customer decides. Free market and all that. I think that tv is a reflection of our culture, not the other way around.

20 posted on 06/05/2007 11:06:18 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: pissant
Oh, I understand that at the time he was writing this, it was a paean to a famous constituent (Roy lived in his district), who had just assumed room temperature and Hunter probably said a lot that he didn't really mean, like Trent Lott praising Strom Thurmond.

Besides, I was alive and kicking during the fifties and remember them well. This is a Reaganesque tribute to an America that never existed.

21 posted on 06/05/2007 11:11:26 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

Love the quotes on yer profile.


22 posted on 06/05/2007 11:18:20 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Huck

Micheal Medved has a great analysis on Hollywood and why they have so much sex and gratutious violence. You’d be suprised at the economics of R versus G and PG rated films and shows.


23 posted on 06/05/2007 11:18:31 AM PDT by pissant
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To: metesky

That’s funny, I still find that America he speaks of in my neighborhood.


24 posted on 06/05/2007 11:19:41 AM PDT by pissant
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

One for the Moral Absolutes list...?


25 posted on 06/05/2007 11:29:20 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: pissant
What is preferable is that the government not try and step in and dictate content.

I agree with placing restrictions on broadcast TV. I can even see the value in the V-chip, though I would leave it as a feature manufacturers can choose to include rather than legislating it's required use.

However, the government is not the people's moral compass and should not try and legislate wholesome television.

While I respect and appreciate Hunter's values, I don't want him trying to use the government to force them on our society.

Personal responsibility and moral behavior start at home, not in the capital building.

26 posted on 06/05/2007 11:34:19 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: pissant
any boy emanating him would receive an "A" in civility from his mom.

"Emanating?" Maybe he meant "imitating".

27 posted on 06/05/2007 11:38:10 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: untrained skeptic

He’s not suggesting such. He’s saying that America is still the land of Roy Rogers. And the crap coming from hollywood these days does not change that.


28 posted on 06/05/2007 11:39:24 AM PDT by pissant
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To: metesky
Besides, I was alive and kicking during the fifties and remember them well. This is a Reaganesque tribute to an America that never existed.

That depends on which street you lived on.

29 posted on 06/05/2007 11:41:59 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: pissant
All I'm saying is that the America that never used foul language and never had the occassional schtup out of marriage and didn't have perverts, child molesters, etc. never existed. In fact in many ways, America is a better place today than it was then.

Brigadier General Anthony McAuliffe never said, "Nuts!" to the German demand for surrender, he in reality said, "F you!"

30 posted on 06/05/2007 11:45:18 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Calpernia

My parents to me to see Roy and Dale and the gang at the Allentown (PA) Fair when I was four. At the end of the show, Roy had all the kids come to the front of the stands and he rode by on Trigger and shook all our hands. I’ll never forget that moment.


31 posted on 06/05/2007 11:46:56 AM PDT by ShasheMac
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To: Drawsing

Mead St, Alston, MA. Looked like an “after” picture of Dresden.


32 posted on 06/05/2007 11:48:33 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky

But we did live in a society that did not tolerate FUs spouted by students to teachers. Or kids wearing their pants so their asses hang out.

Now, too many places expel a kid for a pocket knife, for craps sake. When I was a kid, we used to ride our bikes to the outskirts of town with .22 rifles strapped on our backs to hunt rabbits.

The confluence of politically correct hypersensivity and garbage from the MSM makes for a cauldron of instability in many places now.


33 posted on 06/05/2007 11:51:16 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
The confluence of politically correct hypersensivity and garbage from the MSM makes for a cauldron of instability in many places now.

I can't deny that, FRiend.

34 posted on 06/05/2007 11:53:04 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: pissant; All
Read Roy and Dale's auto biography:

HAPPY TRAILS: Our Life Story by Roy Rogers (Author), Dale Evans (Author)

I enjoyed it. One of my favorite stories from the book is when they would sit down at the dinner table. A round "lazy susan" table. Before they ate, they would bow their heads in prayer. One of their young sons (a big eater) took that opportunity to turn the lazy susan around so that the mashed potatoes would be directly in front of him. As soon as the prayer was finished, naturally he would get his share first. It took a while for roy to catch on. And then he decreed that during the prayer, they would all hold hands. Later on in another book, I saw this photo of them holding hands around the table:


35 posted on 06/05/2007 11:54:45 AM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: pissant
The confluence of politically correct hypersensivity and garbage from the MSM makes for a cauldron of instability in many places now.

Yeah! And besides that, the liberally biased news media is screwing up our country and the world!

;-)

36 posted on 06/05/2007 11:56:34 AM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: pissant
Gene Autry’s Cowboy Code

1. The Cowboy must never shoot first, hit a smaller man, or take unfair advantage.

2. He must never go back on his word, or a trust confided in him.

3. He must always tell the truth.

4. He must be gentle with children, the elderly, and animals.

5. He must not advocate or possess racially or religiously intolerant ideas.

6. He must help people in distress.

7. He must be a good worker.

8. He must keep himself clean in thought, speech, action, and personal habits.

9. He must respect women, parents, and his nations laws.

10. The Cowboy is a patriot.

Hopalong Cassidy’s Creed for American Boys and Girls

1. The highest badge of honor a person can wear is honesty. Be truthful at all times.
2. Your parents are the best friends you have. Listen to them and obey their instructions.
3. If you want to be respected, you must respect others. Show good manners in every way.
4. Only through hard work and study can you succeed. Don’t be lazy.
5. Your good deeds always come to light. So don’t boast or be a show-off.
6. If you waste time or money today, you will regret it tomorrow. Practice thrift in all ways.
7. Many animals are good and loyal companions. Be friendly and kind to them.
8. A strong, healthy body is a precious gift. Be neat and clean.
9. Our country’s laws are made for your protection. Observe them carefully.
10. Children in many foreign lands are less fortunate than you. Be glad and proud you are an American.

Wild Bill Hickock Deputy Marshal’s Code of Conduct

1. I will be brave, but never careless.
2. I will obey my parents. They DO know best.
3. I will be neat and clean at all times.
4. I will be polite and courteous.
5. I will protect the weak and help them.
6. I will study hard.
7. I will be kind to animals and care for them.
8. I will respect my flag and my country.
9. I will attend my place of worship regularly.

The Lone Ranger Creed

1. I believe that to have a friend, a man must be one.
2. That all men are created equal and that everyone has within himself the power to make this a better world.
3. That God put the firewood there, but that every man must gather and light it himself.
4. In being prepared physically, mentally, and morally to fight when necessary for that which is right.
5. That a man should make the most of what equipment he has.
6. That “this government, of the people, by the people, and for the people,” shall live always.
7. That men should live by the rule of what is best for the greatest number.
8. That sooner or later...somewhere...somehow...we must settle with the world and make payment for what we have taken.
9. That all things change, but the truth, and the truth alone lives on forever.
10. I believe in my Creator, my country, my fellow man.

Roy Rogers Riders Club Rules

1. Be neat and clean.
2. Be courteous and polite.
3. Always obey your parents.
4. Protect the weak and help them.
5. Be brave, but never take chances.
6. Study hard and learn all you can.
7. Be kind to animals and care for them.
8. Eat all your food and never waste any.
9. Love God and go to Sunday School regularly.
10. Always respect our flag and our country.

Roy Rogers Prayer

Lord, I reckon I’m not much just by myself,
I fail to do a lot of things I ought to do.
But Lord, when trails are steep and passes high,
Help me ride it straight the whole way through.

And when in the falling dusk I get that final call,
I do not care how many flowers they send,
Above all else, the happiest trail would be
For YOU to say to me, “Let’s ride, My Friend”
AMEN

More of these codes can be found at:

http://www.elvaquero.com/The_Cowboy_Code.htm

37 posted on 06/05/2007 11:56:57 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: FlatLandBeer; lowbridge

Great stuff, fellers. A nice additon to the thread.


38 posted on 06/05/2007 12:00:07 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Another favorite story from Roy’s book that sticks out in my mind: Many times he had his friend and co-star Gabby Hayes over for dinner. At one of these dinners, the kids were acting up as usual. Arguing, fighting, talking loudly, even throwing food at each other. In the middle of all this melee, Roy noticed Gabby had tears in his eyes. Roy asked him, “Pappy, what’s the matter?”. And Gabby (a long time married man, but childless) answered, “Roy, you just don’t know how lucky you are.”


39 posted on 06/05/2007 12:06:30 PM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: pissant
He’s not suggesting such. He’s saying that America is still the land of Roy Rogers. And the crap coming from hollywood these days does not change that.

I didn't state my comment very well.

Yes, I don't see anything in this article advocating government regulation. It simply appears to be memorializing a good man, and showing leadership on moral issues. I see that as a good thing.

What we need in our elected representatives is moral leadership as opposed to trying to legislate morality. I don't know Hunter well enough to know how he approaches regulating morality, but he sure seems to do well in the moral leadership category.

40 posted on 06/05/2007 12:07:51 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: ShasheMac

That sounds like a great memory!


41 posted on 06/05/2007 12:08:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: metesky

It not that they are real or perfect.
It was an Ideal to live up to.
We all screw up we are all sinners.
BUT WE MUST ALL KEEP TRYING...
An 80% solution is better than a 100% that is never realized.


42 posted on 06/05/2007 12:15:15 PM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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43 posted on 06/05/2007 12:31:15 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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44 posted on 06/05/2007 12:58:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: pissant

Great article!


45 posted on 06/05/2007 1:07:21 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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I thought it worthy. :o)


46 posted on 06/05/2007 3:55:59 PM PDT by pissant
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To: wagglebee
Who is right, Roy Rogers or the cynics?

Interesting perspectives here, and definitely one with absolute morals front and center.

47 posted on 06/06/2007 4:43:22 AM PDT by Old 300
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Another example of Hunter’s great writing style.

GodVoter.com Endorses Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945598/posts

Duncan Hunter answer the “BIBLE” Question - RE: CNN/YouTube debate

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: December 5, 2007

San Diego, CA – Presidential candidate and U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) took the opportunity today to respond to a question posed to candidates at the CNN-YouTube Republican Presidential debate that occurred last week that he did not have an opportunity to answer. Holding a Bible, Joseph Dearing from Dallas, Texas, asked the candidates, “Do you believe every word of this book? Specifically, this book that I am holding in my hand, do you believe this book?” Congressman Hunter has sent Mr. Dearing the following letter in answer to his question:

December 3, 2007

Dear Mr. Dearing:

At last week’s CNN-You Tube debate, you asked the question of all of us “Do you believe in every word of this book?” meaning the Bible. As you know, the moderator called on my fellow candidates Governor Romney, Mayor Giuliani and Governor Huckabee to answer, but I myself was not given an opportunity. Allow me to respond directly to your question now. Do I believe every word of the Bible? Yes, by faith.

I find the center of the Bible to be these words: “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life,” John 3:16. If you believe in this promise, which so obviously is not scientifically provable, then is there any other event in the Bible that God’s hand cannot accomplish?

On June 28, 1787, at the Constitution Convention when the delegates appeared to be hopelessly deadlocked, old Ben Franklin made a speech, the central sentence being the following: “The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth: that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid?”

Following this statement, Franklin made a request resulting in the delegates approving a motion by James Madison to open every session with a prayer. The U.S. Constitution was thus born and this document, which delivers to every American the freedoms we enjoy, was produced by men of great faith and who very strongly believed in the Bible. Our further freedoms have been defended by American soldiers, 619,000 of whom were killed in battle during the last century, and a vast majority I feel believed the Bible.

I am sending you a book which I hope you will find instructive and persuasive, “A Third Testament” by Malcolm Muggeridge, chronicling the lives of great intellectuals in history who became followers of Christ and who believed in the Bible.

When I am asked by those who pride themselves on the reliance on provable scientific facts regarding the validity of the scriptures, I answer with one such set of facts. There are an infinite number of atoms on the head of a pin, each of which are circled by electrons. Who placed those electrons there? I hope their attempt to answer this question helps them to understand my three-word answer to your original question. Do I believe every word of the Bible? Yes, by faith.

Thank you again Mr. Dearing for your question. Sincerely, Duncan Hunter


48 posted on 01/13/2008 11:15:18 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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