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I can persuade George Bush on climate change - Blair
Guardian ^ | June 6, 2007

Posted on 06/05/2007 4:27:05 PM PDT by Shermy

Tony Blair insisted yesterday that he could persuade President Bush to agree for the first time to a global target for a "substantial cut" in greenhouse gases within a framework sanctioned by the United Nations. In an interview with the Guardian on the eve of the G8 summit, the prime minister said both elusive goals were now achievable and that America was "on the move" in its position on climate change.

Although Mr Blair said it would take tough negotiations over the next three days and it was still unclear exactly what the president would agree to, he was sure Mr Bush's speech last week, in which he talked about establishing a US-led initiative to tackle global warming, was not a ploy to undermine the UN or the G8.

....Speaking of his experience over three years to get an international agreement on climate change, he said: "The Americans do want to know that China and India are in the deal.

...Mr Blair said the next steps, which are unlikely to be agreed at this G8, are "how to meet the global target, how different cap and trade systems can link up, how the developing world can have common but differentiated obligations, and how you set a proper carbon price that incentivises business".

...The Americans have been sceptical about emission trading systems, arguing that they do not work in practice because the countries that overpollute can buy credits from other countries, so limiting the impact of any deal.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; carboncredits; carboncreditscam; socialism; starkravingsocialist; unitednations; usoutofunnow

1 posted on 06/05/2007 4:27:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Change his mind on illegal immigration first..... please


2 posted on 06/05/2007 4:28:03 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: JoanneSD

Xacly.


3 posted on 06/05/2007 4:29:37 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Shermy

Don’t worry. I’m sure Jorge Bush is ready to sell out his country on this issue too.


4 posted on 06/05/2007 4:31:18 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: Shermy

Nevermind actual PROOF that C02 is a major influence,


5 posted on 06/05/2007 4:32:37 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: xcamel; calcowgirl

“”Mr Blair said the next steps, which are unlikely to be agreed at this G8, are “how to meet the global target, how different cap and trade systems can link up, how the developing world can have common but differentiated obligations, and how you set a proper carbon price that incentivises business”.””

Blair sounds more and more like an American-style business con artist - maybe Al Gore wrote these words for him. Gore is an adviser to the Brit govt. after all.


6 posted on 06/05/2007 4:33:08 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Mister Blair, you are on your way out of office. Don’t become a shill for the United Nations.


7 posted on 06/05/2007 4:35:05 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Shermy

I’ve got to tell you, I’m very skeptical that increasing CO2 concentration in the atmosphere has any effect whatsoever on climate. I’m originally a spectroscopist, I remember measuring the infrared spectrum of CO2 as an undergraduate. Thereafter I published around 50 papers on infrared spectroscopy.
I agree with Jack Barrett’s calculations - the present level of CO2 very quickly absorbs ALL the infrared radiation earth re-radiates anyway. Adding more CO2 will make little difference.
See Barrett’s work here:
http://www.thecra.org/Strange%20Club/Environmentalism/ScientistsAgree.htm


8 posted on 06/05/2007 4:40:17 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: billybudd

“”Don’t worry. I’m sure Jorge Bush is ready to sell out his country on this issue too.””

I think he’s giving Blair a little in trade for Iraq support. Imagine, Blair’s support on a world scale dependent on a fraudulent trading system.

I posted an article recently where a Greek politician admitted the issue was carbon trading, using those two words. Someone asked why doesn’t Bush just come out and say “carbon trading” and “we don’t believe it works, we won’t join it.” It would be a winner.

So knowing Bush as the deceitful person he is as I do now, I thought his silence must indicate that he was for carbon trading in the past. I looked, my instinct was right.

He supported cap and trade, but backed off in early 2001 claiming that natural gas transport systems were not readily available and large enough. Which wouldn’t make any sense to most people except if you know the “game.” One of the games of cap and trade is to make your opponent’s energy more expensive than your own by government regulation. British Petroleum did this ploy, investing heavily in natural gas, which is cleaner, then urging cap and trade. Of course this results in a net rise in energy costs for every consumer.

Bush is locked in.


9 posted on 06/05/2007 4:40:37 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel

As I see it, the inherent problem in the science of CO2 global warming is that all the science in the world can show co2 is a green house gas...but if the increase in temp is insignificant, what is nevertheless an interesting scientific problem becomes something not profitable.

No more grants. No more carbon credits.

The carbon people need “crisis.”


10 posted on 06/05/2007 4:44:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

So sorry, Tony old chap. But you see, you don’t have to convince the President, you need to convince the US Senate that has to ratify any such treaty.

Much tougher nut to crack, as Algore and Clintoon found out with Kyoto.


11 posted on 06/05/2007 4:56:05 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: weegee
Mister Blair, you are on your way out of office. Don’t become a shill for the United Nations

But everyone needs a hobby after retirement...

12 posted on 06/05/2007 4:57:00 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Shermy

Don’t look over in that corner where the crazy Iranian Whack Job is arming his nukes right to Israel, US AND England....no Tony....focus on Climate change.....it’s SOOOOOOOOOO much more important than a nuke.....and we can stop climate change...we are more powerful than God, right Tony? Idiocy in Adulthood is embarrassing.


13 posted on 06/05/2007 4:59:31 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Shermy
Tony Blair insisted yesterday that he could persuade President Bush to agree for the first time to a global target for a "substantial cut" in greenhouse gases within a framework sanctioned by the United Nations

I would prefer that our government leaders would be persuaded by the scientific facts rather than a former politician of a foreign country. We have enough politicians in the U.S. pushing junk science, we don't need to import any.

14 posted on 06/05/2007 5:02:11 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: TrebleRebel

Trees need CO2 to thrive/survive.

Maybe the environmentalists will like the fact that we’ll have a tree boom in the coming generation.


15 posted on 06/05/2007 7:50:16 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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