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20 locals accused of using fake Social Security cards
Palm Beach Post ^ | Thursday, June 07, 2007 | Ron Hayes and Sarah Prohaska

Posted on 06/07/2007 2:52:16 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage

The investigation was complicated, Sink said, because many of those charged were also using fictitious names.

Of the 16 people arrested in St. Lucie County, 12 worked at Bates Plants, a nursery and landscaping business at 15001 W. Angle Road in Fort Pierce.

Most of them told investigators they were in the country illegally. Several said they bought the Social Security cards in West Palm Beach and paid between $40 to $150 for them, according to the reports.

Owner Chad Bates said he was shocked when most of his 17-person crew was arrested earlier this week.

"I've got work lined up, and I needed those workers," Bates said. "I wish there was some way I could have prevented it."

Bates said he moved his business to Fort Pierce from Loxahatchee about two years ago and brought many of those workers with him. He said he required everyone to show him a Social Security card and a resident alien card before he hired them.

"I did everything I was supposed to do," Bates said, adding that in the future he probably will run a background check on potential employees in an effort to prevent this from happening again.

(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; identitytheft; idtheft; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist
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Where are the charges against the owner? They all used the same SS# and he didn't notice? Bull crap!
1 posted on 06/07/2007 2:52:16 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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To: Ron in Acreage
"I've got work lined up, and I needed those workers," Bates said. "I wish there was some way I could have prevented it."

That's easy. Just hire fluent speakers of English.

2 posted on 06/07/2007 2:54:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Let’s see....I hire all Mexican crew that can’t speak English, they all have brand new SS cards, they will work for $3.00 and hour...whats so strange about that? Mmmmmmmmm

Meadow Muffin


3 posted on 06/07/2007 2:56:02 PM PDT by rwgal
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To: DuncanWaring

Where did all the witholding taxes go? Did he withold at all? Where’s the IRS in this matter? This guy better get an analized audit he will never forget. I’m sick of these bastards screwing all of us by breaking the law hiring illegals.


4 posted on 06/07/2007 2:57:03 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (ROMNEY 08-The Winning Ticket)
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To: rwgal

Bates is a lying bastard and needs to go to jail. He aided and abetted these criminals.


5 posted on 06/07/2007 2:58:34 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (ROMNEY 08-The Winning Ticket)
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To: Ron in Acreage
The article didn't say that they found multiple people working for this business owner that had used the same SSN. It said that when they investigated and found that the SSN was stolen, they found that 114 other people were using the same number, but not that they were working for that guy. It doesn't sound like that many people work for him.

It sounds like the guy followed the law. The problem is that the Social Security Administration doesn't tell employers when someone uses someone else's SSN or if they use a phony one.

The only real way the guy can tell that the required documents that were provided are fake is to pay for a more extensive background check out of his own pocket because our government won't do their job.

So now this guy is likely losing a lot of money out of his pocket because the workers he hired to do the job, were not legal and now he's going to lose all the business he had lined up.

You're right to be irate, but I think your anger is a bit misdirected.

6 posted on 06/07/2007 3:06:15 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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Why not drop him a email let him know how you feel?

Chad@batesplants.com


7 posted on 06/07/2007 3:06:34 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: Ron in Acreage
Owner Chad Bates said he was shocked when most of his 17-person crew was arrested earlier this week.

"I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"

Nice try, 'Master' Bates...

8 posted on 06/07/2007 3:10:20 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: untrained skeptic

So if MY SSN were being used by 114 other people, would I get any extra benefit when it comes to collect SS?


9 posted on 06/07/2007 3:12:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: untrained skeptic

Loxahatchee is about 2 miles from me. This place looks like we’re being invaded daily. Dozens and dozens wait on the roadside to get picked up every day. They live 8-10 of them in a 3 bedroom house. 6 cars all over the property. Washers and dryers on the front porch with clotheslines stretched between the trees etc. It’s transforming into the 3rd world slum they escaped. They drive on our streets with no insurance. I could go on.


10 posted on 06/07/2007 3:16:24 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (ROMNEY 08-The Winning Ticket)
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To: Ron in Acreage

This place looks like we’re being invaded daily.

Welcome to my world. Massive influx here. Some areas now look like S. America. Buildings painted bright puky colors. A nearby city tried to pass a city ordinance banning excessive cars parked in streets/yards but it was labeled racist. I could go on and on as well.


11 posted on 06/07/2007 3:22:33 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Locals = Illegal Aliens, Undocumented-American community = Illegal Aliens... sheesh I need "map key" to keep track.

Are dope smokin' hippies still dope smokin' hippies???

12 posted on 06/07/2007 3:37:35 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Go buy a surplus white Ford Crown Vic from a police department or other government agency. Make sure to get one with the spotlight mounted through the driver’s side windshield pillar. Cruise the areas of highest concentration every couple of days. If you want to be real mean, figure out when the contractor trucks go through, and time your “rounds” to be a couple of minutes beforehand. Every now and then, pull over in sight of particularly large concentrations (but not too near, maybe a block away), and make some notes in your day planner or blackberry. When you’re done “taking notes”, pull away from the curb abruptly, and accelerate hard down the street.

You may have to do some searching to find the new “pickup” spots after a couple of days of this. Sooner or later, they may get wise and ignore you, but you can have some fun and hurt the business of the “slavers” into the bargain.


13 posted on 06/07/2007 3:43:41 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Ron in Acreage

See it everywhere in Ca. The six car salami.


14 posted on 06/07/2007 3:45:00 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: BipolarBob
You might have a peculiar credit report...
15 posted on 06/07/2007 3:49:26 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Little Pig

Some union guys around here (N. CA) tried something similar.

They took down contractors license numbers and license plates and reported the lot to the state contractor board.

Nobody cared so they stopped.


16 posted on 06/07/2007 3:53:53 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale

This isn’t to do anything directly to the contractors (i.e. not targeting the employers). This is to make the illegals think the ICE is canvassing the area. They will make themselves scarce every time they see the official-looking vehicle.


17 posted on 06/07/2007 4:05:10 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Where did all the witholding taxes go? Did he withold at all?
Where’s the IRS in this matter?
This guy better get an analized audit he will never forget.
I’m sick of these bastards screwing all of us by breaking the
law hiring illegals.


Although I've not heard any real news commentary on this...
I suspect that the "Tax Amnesty" to be offered to our future
ILLEGAL Immigrant Fellow Citizens is in fact...
to large degree a Tax Amnesty for the PERFIDIOUS B@$TARDS that
have been employing, enabling, exploiting and hiding their
ILLEGALS for since Simpson-Mazzoli in 1986!!!!!


If anyone has seen any news/commentary to confirm/deny this
proposition, please do post.
18 posted on 06/07/2007 4:12:31 PM PDT by VOA
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So if MY SSN were being used by 114 other people, would I get any extra benefit when it comes to collect SS?

NO! If, when you retire, there is any money left in the SS "lockbox" your share will be divided up among the 114 illegals who used your number. Thank you Jorge Bush.

19 posted on 06/07/2007 4:15:48 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Ron in Acreage

Did I miss the part in the article where the country of origin of the illegals was mentioned?

Just at a guess, it wasn’t Albania.


20 posted on 06/07/2007 4:18:16 PM PDT by CivilWarguy (CivilWarGuy)
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