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“Conservatives Left Behind” [The Right’s love-hate relationship with George W. Bush.....]
National Review ^ | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 06/08/2007 9:53:16 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

“Conservatives Left Behind” The Right’s love-hate relationship with George W. Bush.

By Kathryn Jean Lopez

Is the White House just not paying attention?

I know someone in the White House has Internet access — because Nicholas Thompson and Kerrie Rushton from the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives have been e-mailing back and forth in response to Corner posts about the Bush-Kennedy immigration deal for weeks now. Do they not talk to Tony Snow? Does no one talk to the president? Does the president just not care what his conservative allies on so many issues think?

I know I’m not the only one who sometimes suspects the latter.

On May 28, the president said: “If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do what's right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it, you can use it to frighten people. Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all.”

The next morning, on her radio show, Laura Ingraham said that the president had “taken his gloves off to punch us.” Her statement came as part of a monologue in which she chronicled everything she had hated about the Bush administration — Dubai ports, failed Social Security reform. She had taken these “body blows” and continued to stand up for President Bush. We believed in him. There were bigger things at stake than one battle. There’s a war on. But he sure has a weird was of showing his love to his political allies. As she played “thank you for being a friend” from the theme song of The Golden Girls, Laura dubbed the moment: “Conservatives left behind.”

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1 posted on 06/08/2007 9:53:18 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Love-Hate relationship...For me, the former has pretty much dried up. I do, however, have a great deal of the latter to spare.


2 posted on 06/08/2007 9:57:59 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: Sub-Driver

“On May 28, the president said: “If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it, you can use it to frighten people. Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all.”

Mr. President, how about doing what’s right for American and ENFORCE THE LAWS CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS!

What’s frightening people is no one knows who you are! Are you liberal, conservative or a frat boy? You can show leadership and lead by closing the borders! We’re at war, remember? Or is that all just bs too?


3 posted on 06/08/2007 10:00:59 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Sub-Driver

I think that Bush has a bad apple or two that are giving him bad advice or information and when he gets rid of them, He will be in real good shape.


4 posted on 06/08/2007 10:01:34 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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To: lesser_satan
Love-Hate relationship...For me, the former has pretty much dried up. I do, however, have a great deal of the latter to spare.

This entire immigration bill was political insanity, unless Bush was simply doing the bidding of the corporate/Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP. And even then, it makes very little sense. Is cheap labor so important that risking a major rupture of the GOP is worth it? What will cheap labor gain the corporatists if that leads to the Dems controlling the White House in 2008 as well as continuing to control Congress?

5 posted on 06/08/2007 10:04:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: mountainlyons
It is his genetics, not his advisors.

I voted for him twice, hoping that he'd be more like his mom than his dad. But his dad's weakness (the inability to play hardball with his domestic enemies) triumphed, after all.
6 posted on 06/08/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by horse_doc (Visualize a world where a tactical nuke went off at Max Yasgar's farm in 1969.)
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To: mountainlyons
I think that Bush has a bad apple or two that are giving him bad advice or information and when he gets rid of them, He will be in real good shape.

I disagree. Three times Bush has allied with Ted Kennedy and the Dems - education, Medicare prescription benefit and now this abomination of an immigration bill - and all three times have been the lowest points of the Bush Admin as far as its departure from conservatism.

Quite frankly, I see this as Bush being Bush, not Bush getting bad advice. Dittoes for the Miers nomination and the Dubia ports deal.

7 posted on 06/08/2007 10:08:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I don’t hate President Bush but I do think that he is WAY out of his league and corrupt. He is trying to sell out America to multinational corporations and racial interest groups. He is also unable to finish up this mess he began in Iraq so he dumped it on a war czar. Between Bush Jr, Clinton, and Bush Sr. I don’t know how this country is still going. The worst thing that could happen is that his legacy will be like his fathers and we will have another Clinton for 8 more years. She will really put the finishing touches on America.
8 posted on 06/08/2007 10:09:19 AM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: mountainlyons

If that were true (and I don’t buy it) then he would be even less qualified to be president since it would be clear he can’t make his own decisions.


9 posted on 06/08/2007 10:10:09 AM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican party is dead! Let's start over. Nevermind, what's the point?)
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To: Sub-Driver
Does no one talk to the president? Does the president just not care what his conservative allies on so many issues think?

I know I’m not the only one who sometimes suspects the latter.

Peggy Noonan knows

10 posted on 06/08/2007 10:10:13 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: dirtboy

Isn’t it obvious that the Democratic Party also has its corporate/Chamber of Commerce wing?


11 posted on 06/08/2007 10:13:56 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.)
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To: dirtboy
Totally agree with you....most of the Texas Bush cronies are gone except for Rove.....all of them.....and he continues to prioritize friendship loyalty over competency.....I really hate this about Bush..... and he just continues NOT to learn from lessons from the past
12 posted on 06/08/2007 10:18:41 AM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: dirtboy
This entire immigration bill was political insanity, unless Bush was simply doing the bidding of the corporate/Chamber of Commerce wing of the GOP. And even then, it makes very little sense. Is cheap labor so important that risking a major rupture of the GOP is worth it? What will cheap labor gain the corporatists if that leads to the Dems controlling the White House in 2008 as well as continuing to control Congress?

I was a county party official up until recently. I have been trying to tell the guys at state and national parties that they were walking into a chainsaw on this issue. No one wanted to hear it. They would get this glazed look in their eyes and kind of look over my shoulder at something else as they tolerated the neanderthal (me) because they had to. When I finished my piece, they would immediately change the subject. It happened way more than once.

I would wager that any county official in any state would tell you that they knew the national party was committing suicide with this issue. We work with the grassroots constantly. We know the folks who walk precincts and man phone banks and stuff envelopes by name. And we know what they are passionate about. There has never been any question where the base stands on immigration for anyone who wanted to know.

But noone at the state and national level was listening.

13 posted on 06/08/2007 10:20:54 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t hate (nor love) President Bush - I disagree with a lot of this stuff but it’s not like he was trying to hide it like Ol’ Slick did. I just assumed that I was allowed to support him on some things and oppose him on others. This love/hate talk is pretty childish when it comes to politics.


15 posted on 06/08/2007 10:25:23 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: horse_doc

Wow! That’s why I voted for him, too. I prayed he’d be like her. I also admired his taste in Laura and felt that was a clear indication of his character. I fear I was overly optimistic.


16 posted on 06/08/2007 10:25:50 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Sub-Driver
I abhor Bush's stance on the immigration bill and immigration in general - hear that Mr. President??!!

Having said that, I do admire him for sticking to his guns when he thinks he's right rather than testing to see which way the wind is blowing all the time.

Flame away.

17 posted on 06/08/2007 10:27:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: gas0linealley
Isn’t it obvious that the Democratic Party also has its corporate/Chamber of Commerce wing?

Well, they do. But the wing of the dems driving this debate is the La Raza wing and the wing that realizes that an underclass of guest workers is just what the dems need.

The dems had huge success with the war on poverty. They created an underclass, fed their resentments, and their kids grew up and vote reliably dem. We're in the third generation now and the dems start their vote counting with 7-10% of the population locked.

It's hard for Teddy Kennedy to pass up institutionalizing another huge underclass--and that's exactly what a guest worker program is. Their kids are citizens but would grow up with the standard underclass resentments because mom and dad are second-class and not worthy of real citizenship.

That an exploitable underclass also benefits the chamber of commerce wing is just an added benefit. The driver is the cornucopia of future resentment-based, government-dependent voters. So the real driver of the democrats' position is the strategic thinkers amongst their leadership.

18 posted on 06/08/2007 10:27:22 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: gas0linealley
Isn’t it obvious that the Democratic Party also has its corporate/Chamber of Commerce wing?

Yeah, but that wing is about a big as the wing of a gnat. I would say the Dems are far more concerned with the unions than they are with the corporate heads and the Chamber of Commerce.

19 posted on 06/08/2007 10:29:25 AM PDT by jpl ("Player haters, elevators, you cross me, you die." - Wise Lebron)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m with Laura Ingraham 100% on this.

I might even get a bumper sticker that says “Keep Out the Bushes!”

We’ve had enough of this North American Union crap dynasty.


20 posted on 06/08/2007 10:32:45 AM PDT by Palladin (NO Shamnesty!!!)
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