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To: Red Badger
Note that they are showing the GASOLINE figures and are ignoring the DIESEL fuels altogether.........

I am shocked I tell you, shocked to think their may be some bias in this report! :)

In reality this report is biased against anything that will produce CO2, thus they pick the mode that produces the least CO2 according to their models which are slanted against hydrocarbon fuels.

Please note, that they completely and totally ignore nuclear power as a source of electricity. That is all you need to know about this report. It is political crap with a preordained agenda and outcome.

We may be in a global warming period that will melt the ice caps and we may not be. If we are it does not have a damn thing to do with CO2 levels. CO2, levels lag global temperatures by a few hundred years. The level of CO2 in the atmosphere is a function of global temperature.

It is as simple as a bottle of coke. Open a hot bottle or can of coke and it will spew out gas. The gas is CO2. The reason is the solubility of CO2 is a function of the temperature of the liquid. There is a layer of liquid that cover 2/3s of the earth and averages 5 miles deep it is called the oceans. That is where the vast majority of the CO2 in the world resides. If the earth warms due to solar and cosmic influences the water gets warmer and releases CO2. I wish someone would mention this to Al Gore. What I would really like to mention to Al Gore is the fact that that damn graph he uses showing CO2 levels and temperature is so damn compressed that you can not see the fact that the CO2 levels lag the earths mean temperature. The very data he used to support his beliefs destroys his beliefs if subjected to true scientific analysis. He knows this. He is a liar.

Actually I think the polar caps are melting and will melt. I do not know if this is a slight warming in glacial period or a true end of the last glaciation of which we are still in.

I would hope that we are actually at the end of a glacial period and over the next few thousand years the polar icecaps will melt. During these temperate times in the geologic past life flourished on the earth. During truly glacial times, life was hard, very hard on this earth.

If the sea levels rise many coastal cities will move inland over hundreds of years. The buildings will fall down from age long before the sea claims them and Al Gore will be less than an iota or em in history before one drop of seawater enters Central Park in New York.

Forgive my grandstanding but the best solution is the market place that will deliver the maximum power to the drive train at the cheapest cost. Today that is Diesel, perhaps in the future we can figure out how to convert lefties, hippies (I was one in the 60s but grew up) and eviromentalist to pure diesel or cognac. You can burn the diesel and drink the cognac. :)

23 posted on 06/08/2007 9:10:23 PM PDT by cpdiii (Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
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To: cpdiii
the polar caps are melting and will melt.

Ice only melts where the temperature shifts just above 32 degrees. If we induced man-made clouds to cool the surface a degree at just this narrow latitude the polar caps cannot melt. These man-made clouds in cold air eventually snow out adding freshwater ice mass to the edge of the polar caps.

29 posted on 06/09/2007 10:41:29 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: cpdiii
It is as simple as a bottle of coke. Open a hot bottle or can of coke and it will spew out gas. The gas is CO2.

I once thought of doing a spoof of the "Global Warming" so called data that shows how GW has increased ever since the invention of the Internal Combustion Engine. Since the carbonated soft drink industry started at about the same time as the IC engine, and has steadily increased in popularity ever since, you could, truthfully, make up some charts and graphs and all sorts of sales figures for Coke, Pesi and all the others that showed a direct link between Carbonated soft drinks and GW. It would be just as valid and honest as An Inconvenient Truth and just about as scientific........

35 posted on 06/09/2007 8:31:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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