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While I believe that all pets should be spayed or neutered, I don't see how this law could possibly enforceable or could possibly avoid being intrusive. Requiring this of people who sell pets is one thing, but I don't see how you could enforce this without having state agents running around groping dogs.

Rhode Island adopted a similar law last month (link is to FR thread).

1 posted on 06/09/2007 6:57:50 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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What’s next in California? Spaying and neutering our children?


2 posted on 06/09/2007 7:04:52 AM PDT by Paperdoll
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how you could enforce this without having state agents running around groping dogs.

I can assure you they will only grope my dog once.

Well maybe twice if they want to lose their other hand too.

3 posted on 06/09/2007 7:05:09 AM PDT by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
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You’ve gotta love California.

What they say about it, still holds.


4 posted on 06/09/2007 7:06:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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I’d support spaying and neutering our state legislature. At least the Dems, anyway.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 7:06:41 AM PDT by RichInOC (The California State Legislature: Poster children for the Seventeenth Amendment.)
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I was once reprimanded by someone here in FR because I used the word 'Kalifornicatia'.

California is obsessed with sex ... every form and way imaginable, and every means to destroy the function of sex, as a means of reproducing humans.

Cali Freepers excepted .... it's Kalifornicatia henceforth.

7 posted on 06/09/2007 7:11:38 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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And the march to becoming a complete socialist nanny state continues.
8 posted on 06/09/2007 7:13:54 AM PDT by Reagan is King (u)
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pitting dog and cat lovers against animal rights activists.

All sarcasm aside, are these "animal rights" activists insane?

What sane person believes that it is a right to be forcibly sterilized?

Jesus Christ, they sound like the Chinese of prior days. - when they come for your children will they wrap it in "HUMAN RIGHTS" doublespeak??

Orwell is spinning!

9 posted on 06/09/2007 7:14:57 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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This weird for me, but i actually would support a tax payer funded program. Free on the spot at the vet.

I have 5-10 dogs/cats wonder up a year that someone has thrown out on the road. It is awful to take them to the shelter, but there is no way we can afford the bills and food necessary to feed them, nor do we have the room.

I think there is a program for the elderly to get a voucher to pay most of the cost for their pet, but it requires them to personally go into the big city to get the voucher.


10 posted on 06/09/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by cmet
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It now goes to the state Senate amid a flurry of legislation that must be passed by Friday.

Meaning it will probably be rubber-stamped.

15 posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:03 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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NJ has this in its Animal Welfare Task Force appointed by our exgovernor McGreevey.

It is enforceable because the SPCA acquires the pet registration list. Registered pets are listed as sterilized or not.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280305/posts
Animal task force shows claws

I have added posts at that thread on how empowered the SPCA is and reference to the animal task force information too.


16 posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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We (Los Angeles, at least) already face a penalty for not spaying/neutering. The annual fee to licence a spayed/neutered dog is $10, unspayed/un-neutered, $100.


17 posted on 06/09/2007 7:39:53 AM PDT by LantzALot (Yes, it’s my opinion. No, it’s not humble.)
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Instead of spaying dogs and cats, we should encourage more breeding.

This is a golden opportunity!

By selling our surplus pets to China and Korea were there are significant meat shortages, we can alleviate our trade balance while solving our dog and cat overpopulation problem! /sarcasm

18 posted on 06/09/2007 7:39:55 AM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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Sure, I’l get mine fixed right after there’s a law passed that all congresscritters get fixed.


27 posted on 06/09/2007 8:17:22 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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If nonbreeders neutering their pets is a good thing, then having the state enforce it can’t be all bad. Just be thankful Bush hasn’t interpreted the Commerce Clause to force it on all the states, yet.


30 posted on 06/09/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by gcruse
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Excellent idea, I wish Florida would enact the same law.
33 posted on 06/09/2007 9:01:30 AM PDT by WackySam (Just say no to Rudy McRomney)
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Well to toss FReepers a bone, most people with free hanging dogs in California are illegals, gangsters, and crank addicts... so, in that light, the dems are at least hurting their own constituents.
34 posted on 06/09/2007 9:04:48 AM PDT by Porterville (2 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES AND POSSIBLY THREE..... SO THINK ABOUT IT IDIOT)
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It is the stated goal of a group of people within our California legislature and bureaucracy to ELIMINATE all domesticated animals, especially farm animals. They want only wild and feral. They say so openly. Veganism gone mad.

They are actively making trouble for small dairies at a local (county) level and have eliminated some.


35 posted on 06/09/2007 9:09:23 AM PDT by Poincare
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Everybody should run out and get a pet Democrat, right now!


36 posted on 06/09/2007 9:25:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Oddly enough, some EUropean countries used to forbid and practically outlaw the spaying of pets, because they thought forcing a pet owner to keep track of heat cycles would encourage responsibility-and a surgical end to heats would therefore encourage irresponsible pet care. All they got for their trouble was an 8 times greater rate of uterine cancer in female dogs in these countries than in countries in which nonbreeding females are spayed.

Different laws, different countries, but in both cases the attitude is the same : You're a child with no right to decide anything for yourself, so I'm going to pass a law to force you to act as I think you should.

39 posted on 06/09/2007 9:40:28 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Jesus says, Forgive your brother 70x7 times. Mo says, Kill your brother if he leaves islam.)
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I work with a dog rescue, all of our pets are “fixed” but the state of California can’t round up Illegals, how can it keep track of pets? Stupid, Crazy, and out of whack priorities, let’s get things in order here. OMG is this effort a low priority. Try some EDUCATION before Legislation.


40 posted on 06/09/2007 9:54:57 AM PDT by King_Corey (A King is Sovereign of his life and not a slave)
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