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Infighting splits war protesters
The Hindu ^ | Jun 04, 2007 | Joanna Walters

Posted on 06/09/2007 2:29:16 PM PDT by mdittmar

THE AMERICAN peace movement has been plunged into disarray after failing to persuade the new-look Congress to stop the war, amid mounting warnings of a summer bloodbath in Iraq.

When its most high-profile controversial figurehead — Cindy Sheehan — quit the anti-war campaign and the Democratic party in disgust last week, her resignation statement revealed the deep divisions. Now opponents of President George W. Bush are warning that the anti-war movement and the Democrats have little time to salvage their credibility if they want to end the war — and take the credit for it.

Ms. Sheehan shot to fame when she camped outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, in August 2005 and refused to move until he met her to explain the "noble cause" for which her son Casey had died in Iraq the previous year. Mr. Bush never did.

But "betrayal" was the only word used to describe the Democrats last week by the pressure group "Military Families Speak Out," after the Democrats "caved in" by agreeing to continue funding Iraq without setting a withdrawal deadline. Even as Ms. Sheehan's decision to withdraw after three years' campaigning cast a spotlight on the state of the U.S. peace movement, it was eclipsed by her announcement that "Camp Casey" — the chunk of land she bought to hold protests outside Mr. Bush's ranch — was up for sale.

Despite her repeated declarations that she would use it until Mr. Bush resigned or was impeached, reports emerged that she planned to sell it on eBay.

Without missing a beat, the conservative group "Move America Forward" announced it would buy Camp Casey and erect a war memorial there, leading Ms. Sheehan's sister, DeDe Miller, to say it would be "a cold day in hell" before they would get their hands on it. "Military Families Speak Out" admitted that the anti-war movement was "fragmenting" — a view endorsed by the "Crawford Peace House," a campaign based near Mr. Bush's ranch that is calling for the anti-war movement to "regroup."

"The peace movement is in disarray. It's run by the Democrats and they are scrambling to try to show that they are anti-war, but no one is fooled any more, and Cindy Sheehan just added an exclamation mark to that," said John Walsh, a commentator for the leftwing online newsletter Counterpunch.

Many believe the only way for the peace movement to make a difference now is for its various groups formally to break with the political parties with which they are aligned — in other words, the Democrats.

Some draw consolation from history. Among them is Judith Le Blanc, co-chair of United for Peace and Justice, who points to the anti-war movement's fight during the Vietnam war and supports Democratic tactics. "Vietman was not ended with one vote. It took five votes to withdraw funding and, during that time, [President Lyndon] Johnson began bringing the troops out. I think the Democrats are using the politics of reality," she said. "We are not giving up," she insisted. —


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gatheringofeagles
Thank you Gathering of Eagles,you did it,keep up the good work.
1 posted on 06/09/2007 2:29:18 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
if they want to end the war — and take the credit for it.

Getting "credit" for a coalition defeat has been the sole aim of these old hippies ever since the invasion. They want some sort of "legacy" beyond simply being drug-addled failures.

2 posted on 06/09/2007 2:36:29 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: mdittmar

With “friends” like these, who needs Al Qaeda?


3 posted on 06/09/2007 2:38:08 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: mdittmar

No, PRESIDENT Bush did not meet with her in Crawford, he met with her after her son died, like he does with many of the deceased soldiers’ parents. Cindy Sheehan does not get to dictate another presidential visit on her terms.

This article is a perfect example of what is meant by media bias. The writer would say the article told the facts. But it clearly implied Bush never met with her, ever. It does not mention the important fact that he had already met with her.

As to the disarray of the “peace movement” and their disillusionment with the Democrats, there is an old Russian proverb for that: Toughskie Breakskie!!!


4 posted on 06/09/2007 2:41:38 PM PDT by JohnEBoy (AT)
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To: mdittmar
...during that time, [President Lyndon] Johnson began bringing the troops out.

I don't remember that at all.

5 posted on 06/09/2007 2:44:44 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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To: JohnEBoy
..."Camp Casey" — the chunk of land she bought...

It was bought for her, not by her. Add that to this writers loose facts.

6 posted on 06/09/2007 2:47:12 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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To: JoeSixPack1

Online edition of India's National Newspaper


When I see articles from, Great Britan, France, Germany, India, etc. I ask...

And we should pay attention to this news source because.....

7 posted on 06/09/2007 4:04:38 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()... Hey Lindsay ...I'm one of the Loud ones...and pretty proud of it....()
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Fodder for the posting addicted! :-)


8 posted on 06/09/2007 4:10:59 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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To: JoeSixPack1

LOL, you’re right


9 posted on 06/09/2007 4:15:00 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()... Hey Lindsay ...I'm one of the Loud ones...and pretty proud of it....()
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To: JoeSixPack1; mdittmar
Yup ~ not in my memory banks either.

I do remember that some of the same people in Congress who arranged for turning South Vietnam over to the NVA who then conducted a genocide on their behalf are still in Congress ~ I despise those pukes, and when they speak for the Democratic party I remind myself to never trust any Democrat with anything, certainly not my life, nor the lives of my loved ones.

Not even sure Democrats are the same species as the rest of us.

10 posted on 06/10/2007 4:02:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mdittmar

Let me add my thanks to yours! But with the encouragement that we keep standing up against these so-called peace people. We can’t simply post, blog, or send donations. End Armchair Patriotism! Take that street corner! I have done bi-weekly rallies (Friday & Sunday) for four years, and will never surrender! We could have done other things, but what is more important than standing up for the troops and America! It sure isn’t a movie or barbeque.


11 posted on 06/11/2007 6:48:11 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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‘...Sheehan’s sister, DeDe Miller, to say it would be “a cold day in hell” before they (Move America Forward) would get their hands on it.’

Isn’t this discrimination? Thought they were against that sort of thing. Hmmm.


12 posted on 06/11/2007 6:54:27 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: muawiyah

“Not even sure Democrats are the same species as the rest of us.”

They’re the same species. It’s just that some evolve into conservatives and Republicans, while others remain stuck.


13 posted on 06/11/2007 6:58:23 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: JoeSixPack1

I agree it was Nixon in November 1969, wasn’t it?


14 posted on 06/12/2007 8:42:23 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

June 8, 1969

President Nixon meets with South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu on Midway Island in the Pacific, and announces that 25,000 U.S. troops will be withdrawn immediately.

January 1, 1972

Only 133,000 U.S. servicemen remain in South Vietnam. Two thirds of America’s troops have gone in two years. The ground war is now almost exclusively the responsibility of South Vietnam, which has over 1,000,000 men enlisted in its armed forces.

http://www.vietnam-war.info/timeline/timeline5.php

:-)


15 posted on 06/12/2007 9:45:34 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow. Tomorrow is always the busiest day!)
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