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To: N. Theknow; saveliberty

Most people call the illegals “criminals”. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor, mostly paid for in fines, generally punishable by less than a year in jail. The real crime is the people hiring them and harboring them. That is a felony. That’s where the focus should be. The real criminals are the Americans! And of course ALL violent criminals, drug smuggling, etc. should be sent back without question. It will be very difficult to track any of them however without a bill registering all of them and documenting there where abouts.
What these people are being asked to pay is way more than most misdemeanors require. Calling this amnesty is just incorrect.


248 posted on 06/12/2007 6:56:32 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: jackv
It will be very difficult to track any of them however without a bill registering all of them and documenting there where abouts.
How is a bill going to track them when the bills passed in the past haven't tracked them?

What makes you think that any illegal alien will "register" so that they may be tracked to start with?! Are you counting on their good will and benevolent nature? If so, we would already know who and where they are!

252 posted on 06/12/2007 7:07:56 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: jackv
Most people call the illegals “criminals”. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor, mostly paid for in fines, generally punishable by less than a year in jail.

Criminals pay fines and criminals go to jail. That's why they are called criminals.

What these people are being asked to pay is way more than most misdemeanors require. Calling this amnesty is just incorrect.

With a stroke of a pen, they change from being "illegal" to being "legal." They are only "asked" to pay fines if they want to become citizens. If they don't pay the fine they are still "legal" and stay forever, for free. NO fines. NO penalties. NO deportation. NO jail.

Denying that it is amnesty is incorrect and insulting.

260 posted on 06/12/2007 7:20:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: jackv
What these people are being asked to pay is way more than most misdemeanors require. Calling this amnesty is just incorrect.

Criminals also have to make restitution. If a criminal breaks into a house and gets caught, he doesn't get to stay if he simply pays a fine.

Also, when a person guilty of a misdemeanor pays a fine, that doesn't mean that he is then granted immunity from the charge if he does it again. If a guy trespasses on private property, he doesn't get to go there anytime if wants if he just pays a fine.

278 posted on 06/12/2007 7:49:06 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: jackv
Most people call the illegals “criminals”. Crossing the border is only a misdemeanor, mostly paid for in fines, generally punishable by less than a year in jail.

That's true,as far as it goes, BUT most of the illegals break other laws as well including laws that are felonies.

It is a felony for an alien to work here without a work visa. It is a felony (perjury) to submit false information on a W-4 form. It's a felony in most states to submit false information on a driving license application. It's also a felony in most states to drive without a license.

These are just a few of the serious crimes most illegal aliens commit. They are forgiven all these crimes too. Plus, there is NO fine for anything if they just stay here as "probationary" legal residents.

What these people are being asked to pay is way more than most misdemeanors require.

Ask Scooter Libby if getting off with a $5,000 fine is a sweet deal for a perjury rap. Why treat illegal aliens better than we treat citizens?

The real crime is the people hiring them and harboring them. That is a felony. That’s where the focus should be. The real criminals are the Americans!

The Bush-Kennedy-McCain amnesty bill gives the criminal employers amnesty for their crimes committed prior to its passage.

Calling this amnesty is just incorrect.

Calling this anything but amnesty is incorrect.

280 posted on 06/12/2007 7:52:55 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: jackv
"The real criminals are the Americans!"

So, can you explain what your statement above means????? Standing alone, it looks very bad.

394 posted on 06/12/2007 11:37:18 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser & REMEMBER TERRI IN CAMPAIGN 2008)
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