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Armed citizen patrol in New Haven
WTNH Television ^ | 6/12/07 | Puppage

Posted on 06/12/2007 4:37:27 AM PDT by Puppage

(New Haven-WTNH) _ One group armed with guns is ready to make their New Haven neighborhood a safer place by patrolling in the area around Edgewood Park.

The Edgewood Park Defense Patrol will be patrolling the 16-block area from Whalley to Edgewood and Winthrop to West Park. They believe that the police are not doing their part to keep the streets safe.

Their uniform is a black tee-shirt with Edgewood Park Defense Patrol and their mission is to keep peace on the streets with armed bike patrols.

"It's certainly not the substitute that one would want but when you're missing what you're supposed to have and things are slipping out of hand then you're left with no choice but to do something about it," said Eliezer Greer.

Members of Yeshiva New Haven decided to take matters into their own hands after Rabbi Dov Greer was physically assaulted Sunday night. They say they've been appealing to the city for years with no results and are tired of sitting by while the vandalism, robberies and muggings increased.

"Being home with our families in the evenings is what we'd rather be doing than having to ensure that there's safety and security in the neighborhood," said Aviad Hack.

They will be patrolling in pairs every night from 6-10 PM, with one person carrying a concealed gun.

"Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it," said Mayor John DeStefano.

DeStefano says he has looked at the deployment levels in the Edgewood Park area and believes the police coverage is sufficient. News Channel 8 saw squad cars and officers walking the beat, but one man who is running for mayor, says he does not believe in vigilantism, but supports the residents move to protect their neighborhood.

"Perhaps it's time to look at contacting the Governor and asking the Governor to provide state police department's oversight in helping New Haven," said Jim Newton of New Haven.

The Defense Patrol says that they don't believe this will make them targets, rather it will wake up the neighborhood and encourage others to join in. They say they will continue the patrols as long as necessary.


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"Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it," said Mayor John DeStefano.

Yet, he encourages illegal aliens.

1 posted on 06/12/2007 4:37:28 AM PDT by Puppage
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"Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it," said Mayor John DeStefano.

Soon to be EX-Mayor...

2 posted on 06/12/2007 4:39:32 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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""Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it," said Mayor John DeStefano."

Unfortunately, you left the citizens no choice but to protect themselves and their property.

hmmmmmmm - sounds vaguely familiar.

3 posted on 06/12/2007 4:45:09 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I Relieve Myself In Islam's General Direction While I Deny Global Warming.)
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To: Puppage

I applaud the people of the Edgewood neighborhood for doing the right thing and standing up to the troublemakers. Mayor DeStefano has fallen down on the job bigtime.


4 posted on 06/12/2007 4:45:36 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Puppage

Whalley Ave. One place of several in my life I had my personal protection in my hand. As an on the road salesman, the company car was on the fumes, it was an hour past sunset. With one hand on the pump handle, my back to the pump, and my PP concealed in my hand under my open coat, I filled the tank. Not a nice place.


5 posted on 06/12/2007 4:45:44 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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Not a nice place

It is......if you're a bullet.

6 posted on 06/12/2007 4:46:51 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Biggirl

cue the aclu (american CRIMINAL liberties union). Anything that will weaken America they MUST step in and do. pathetic


7 posted on 06/12/2007 4:47:10 AM PDT by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: Puppage

Goes to show that even in deep blue states people have had enough of the support the law breaking folks.


8 posted on 06/12/2007 4:49:11 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Puppage

FYI have CCW, CT, ME and resident state NH


9 posted on 06/12/2007 4:58:07 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Puppage

Mayor John DeStefano
10 posted on 06/12/2007 5:00:12 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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Have you ever met DeStefano? He seems as gay as can be. I don't think he is but he has a fairly effeminate voice.

BTW, I play tennis at Edgewood Park and never had any problems. Of course, half the players are New Haven police, firemen, one guy is a Conn. Supreme Court Justice and various other locals.

11 posted on 06/12/2007 5:20:51 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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"Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it," said Mayor John DeStefano.

Then why did the cops waste all that money on guns?

12 posted on 06/12/2007 5:26:36 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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Yet, he encourages illegal aliens.

AND! He thinks buying oil from a communist dictator is a good thing.

13 posted on 06/12/2007 5:44:01 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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This makes sense to me but is still truly astounding. oreshadowing? The past is prelude.

I’d like to see how the liberal Yalies would act if their stone fortress were taken down and they had to integrate with the rest of the city.


14 posted on 06/12/2007 6:14:39 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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Anyone who thinks it is the mayor’s (read government/police) job to protect them is missing the point. It is ALWAYS the individual’s responsibility to protect himself and his family. The police have NO duty to protect. Their charter is law enforcement, not personal protection. The logical solution to high crime is armed citizens (whether on patrol, or just out and about). Once the criminal element grasps the idea that there is a high probability of being thwarted by an armed citizen, they will find easier pickings.

God’s speed sheepdogs!
Stay alert.


15 posted on 06/12/2007 6:21:21 AM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! "On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" By David Grossman)
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Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it,"

Hmm, he just described Police.
16 posted on 06/12/2007 6:33:17 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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Anyone who patrols with a gun in an attempt to use it as a deterrent is putting themselves and other citizens at risk and I absolutely discourage it,"

Hmmmm.......I wonder if the good mayor has a security detail looking after HIM?

17 posted on 06/12/2007 6:50:13 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: tiger-one

I just got to say, that is one large sales territory, especially in winter, my hat is off to you.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 11:53:59 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander

Thanks


19 posted on 06/12/2007 12:43:00 PM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: Puppage

If the curren mayor believes police coverage is “sufficient” and there is a crime level under that coverage that has lead to the belief the people having to take their own actions, does that mean the mayor believes that crime level is also acceptable?


20 posted on 06/12/2007 1:11:12 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Too principled to support Bush)
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