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BERKELEY: School, military skirmish over data on students
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 6/12/7 | Carolyn Jones

Posted on 06/12/2007 10:52:16 AM PDT by SmithL

Berkeley High remains the only high school in the nation that has failed to comply with the military's request for students' data, a Department of Defense spokesman said.

A month ago, the school -- under pressure from the government to release the data or lose funding -- changed its policy that blocked the release of students' personal information. The new policy allows students and parents who do not wish to be contacted by military recruiters to opt out by signing a form.

But the school did not immediately release the data to the government. Instead, a group of parents have been on a campaign to ask each and every student whether they want to opt out.

Thus far, 90 percent of the students at Berkeley High have refused to have their names released to miliary recruiters.

Berkeley High risked losing $10 million in federal funding, and possibly faced legal action, if it did not change its policy regarding military recruitment.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; beserkely; nclb
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Anti-American leeches.
1 posted on 06/12/2007 10:52:20 AM PDT by SmithL
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"Not a lot of people know what's going on with the war," said Krystal Elebiary, a junior who joined with student Daniel Sandoval to write a letter and collect about 250 student signatures proclaiming, "We will not be used as tools for an unjust and imperialist war." When I read something that stupid, all I can do is sit here and laugh. She thinks that she's an expert on the war, but then claims that it's a result of imperialism. LOL!
2 posted on 06/12/2007 10:58:10 AM PDT by rob21 (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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I am so sick of this sh!t - g*ddamned f**king leftist leeches shoving anti-American communist propaganda down the throats of impressionable young people.

I don't care if it's Berkeley - they need to be made an example of. Shut them down. Fire them for insubordination, and place every single one of the treasonous bastards under arrest. Now.

3 posted on 06/12/2007 10:58:43 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: rob21
"Not a lot of people know what's going on with the war," said Krystal Elebiary

You certainly don't, sweetie.

4 posted on 06/12/2007 11:00:26 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: rob21
the school -- under pressure from the government to release the data or lose funding

It all comes down to the money.

5 posted on 06/12/2007 11:05:14 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: SmithL; EdReform

Seems to me that the oath most teachers take to get their jobs should prevent their activism against their host country...


6 posted on 06/12/2007 11:05:15 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SmithL
Parent volunteers are contacting the 150 to determine their intentions.

If the school district is so particular about releasing student information what in the H*** are they doing telling parent volunteers who the students are that haven't signed the opt out form?

7 posted on 06/12/2007 11:05:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: SmithL

Sorry, I have to agree with them. I certainly wouldn’t want all my personal information handed over to military recruiters.

Frankly, I commend the school district for acting to protect its students personal information.

Flame away.


8 posted on 06/12/2007 11:05:33 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: bassmaner
"Not a lot of people know what's going on with the war," said Krystal Elebiary

Could that be a function of a California public school education?

9 posted on 06/12/2007 11:06:37 AM PDT by trimom
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To: SmithL

Cowards. My two sons served in Iraq in place of cowards?
Un-American communists. Freedom isn’t free.


10 posted on 06/12/2007 11:07:45 AM PDT by rbosque ("A nation which kills it's own young has no future." -- John Paul II)
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To: jazusamo

A fair point that deserves investigation.


11 posted on 06/12/2007 11:08:14 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

No flames here, I agree.


12 posted on 06/12/2007 11:08:37 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Publius Valerius; wagglebee; ElkGroveDan

Don’t confuse the ones who opt out with those willing to be contacted.

There is an over-and-above effort here to intimidate/shame/coerce/scare them ALL to opt out.

Also note the level of activism here, versus the level of due diligence for parental consent of sex education, abortion, etc.


13 posted on 06/12/2007 11:11:16 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SmithL

I would venture a guess here...

That these are really the type of young people I do not want serving along side the young folks who are volunteering to serve...

I believe if this is the “last” school...I believe we have enough young and very capable folks that would serve if asked...And I would believe we won’t have to ask if it ever came to that...


14 posted on 06/12/2007 11:18:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Publius Valerius

What would these people fight for, if anything?


15 posted on 06/12/2007 11:23:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: SmithL
Let me see if I have this right:

1. The schools receive large amounts of federal money

2. The schools receive protection from the federal government

3. But the schools refuse to allow the federal government access to the names of the students they are paying to educate and protect...

4. And heaven forbid that the school would consider any of the students would want to serve in the military.

16 posted on 06/12/2007 11:28:48 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Red in Blue PA
What would these people fight for, if anything?

Drug legalization maybe?

The right to hold disruptive protests?

The right to slander and libel those they oppose with impunity?

Liberals don't usually tend to be real pacifists. They just get caught up in the idea of rebelling against authority. That and fighting against the evils of corporations and capitalism.

17 posted on 06/12/2007 11:42:14 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Publius Valerius

I’m with you. I won’t give my personal information out to anyone(especially the government)-why would I give out my sons? If he wishes to join the military it isn’t hard to find out info about any of the branches, and he can initiate contact with them.
I also don’t think schools should give out personal info to colleges either. We should protect out privacy and personal information every chance that we get.


18 posted on 06/12/2007 11:46:31 AM PDT by bigred41
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To: untrained skeptic

And they are for freedom of speech until their side is challenged.


19 posted on 06/12/2007 11:48:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Publius Valerius
"I certainly wouldn’t want all my personal information handed over to military recruiters."

No flame necessary. Unless you are still in high school, the military already has your information.

Questions to anyone: 1.)How is a sovereign nation to remain sovereign if it's government doesn't have the names and information of people to recruit or draft for military service to defend the nation? 2.)Are there any nations that do not compile such information?

20 posted on 06/12/2007 11:50:28 AM PDT by moonman
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