Toothpaste labeled Colgate recalled

msnbc.com ^ | 6/13/07 | AP

[BIGLOOK]

Have you heard of the downside of drinking bottled water, i.e. unflouridated bottled water? Call a dentist.

[ASA Vet]

More people die from Hydrogen Hydroxide related causes than any other chemical.

[ASA Vet]

Oh, by the way, bottled water companies use it in their product. Maybe there should be FDA warning labels on them.

[BIGLOOK]

I use an EC (Electro conductivity) meter regularly. Handy to test water purity. I've used it to test our tap water (at $1.59/ 1000 gallons) against bottled water ($1.29/16 oz.) and the tap water wins every time.

When I saw this thread, before all the fooling around, all I thought of was the counterfeiting that the ChiComs involve themselves in.

I remember warnings given out years ago, not to purchase an Encyclopedia Britannica or an IBM or various typewriters in Hong Kong, among other items, since they'd be confiscated on arrival in the US. The Chinese didn't have any regard to copyrights or patents.

[TheSpottedOwl]

We simply have to be our own physicians for the most part. And we are fortunate with the plethora of information now in print and on the net.

You've got that right. That's probably why the FDA wants to "regulate"(ban?" herbal and other homeopathic remedies.

As for the fluoride problem, I read an article about how fluoride can diminish your thyroid gland function. We have water from an underground aquifier, but the drought is affecting the quality of that water. I don't know if it is fluoridated, but I should find out. I have to take thryroid meds.

Speaking of soda, I kicked my 2 liter bottle a day habit of Diet Coke last year. There is a thread here that outlines the dangers of the preservative commonly used in such products. It messes up your liver, especially if you're taking Vitamin C along with it. Like products containing acetamenophine(sp) :(

All those artifical sweetners will probably bite us all soon, as well.

I'm looking to get an inexpensive water filter for the shower heads and the kitchen faucet. We rent, so I'm not buying an RO device. I'm just so tired of lugging home bottles and bottles of spring/distilled water.

Hope your back problem is under control. Back problems are the pits. Oh yeah, they put that bloody Tylenol in the codeine. The codeine doesn't destroy your liver, but the Tylenol will build up and poison you.

[stormer]

And little children’s ice cream, Mandrake.

[Xenophon450]

Oh my, Colgate quality control issues eh?

http://www.tourettesguy.com/videos/colgate/

Another dissatisfied customer (NOT work friendly)

[OKIEDOC]

A great amount of toothpaste is produced in Venezuela a country now controlled by Socialist Commie Hugo Chavez.

Chavez is doing a lot of trading with the Chinese who are at the root of all these recalls.

(Sarc) Lets export more of manufacturing ability to some foreign country!

Do you feel safer today than you did 20 years ago?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

BUMP...

[little jeremiah]

Got a freepmail request for my toothpowder recipe, so in the interests of freaking everyone out with a list of strange ingredients, here it is:

Toothpowder

4 Cups powdered Clay – Bentonite, Montmorillinite, Green, etc (Kaolin doesn’t work so well, it’s just different)
1 cup fine Sea Salt (or any salt without chemical additives)
Note: Friends who are making this right now say it seems too salty to them... try using 1/2 c. and adding more bit by bit as desired.
1 cup Baking Soda

This is the basic recipe. Various powdered herbs can be added, which can help kill bacteria, add whitening action, reduce gum inflammation, deoderize mouth odors, etc. The proportion of herb powder is variable; my recipes below.

Some possibilities: (ALL powdered!)
Sage
Cloves
Peppermint
Lemon, Orange or Grapefruit peel
Fennel
Spearmint
Ginger
Black Pepper
Long Pepper
Neem
Cinnamon
Cardamom
Rosemary

Added to the above ingredients are essential oils, which not only provide a good flavor, but have anti-bacterial and anti-viral potency. Make sure you use pure, 100% natural essential oils, NOT “fragrance oils”.

A sample of useful essential oils:
Clove
Cinnamon
Peppermint
Lemon
Orange
Grapefruit
Fennel
Wintergreen
Spearmint
Rosemary
Cardamom

Here are the recipes I made recently:

I mixed 4 cups of powdered Clay as described above with 1 cup each Baking Soda and fine Sea Salt and put through a stainless steel strainer to mix thoroughly. Next I added these powdered herbs:
2 T. Trikatu (a mixture of ginger, black pepper, and Pippli or Long Pepper)
3 T. Lemon Peel
2 T. Rosemary
2 T. Triphala (a mixture of three Ayurvedic herbs with strong purification energy) Note: Don’t worry about this one unless you happen to be a very curious herb type
1 T. Neem (another powerful anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal herb)

again put through a strainer, and then divided into three bowls.

Bowl 1- Wintergreen:
2 T. powdered Fennel
80 drops Wintergreen EO
20 drops Lemon EO

Bowl 2 - Peppermint
2 T. Powdered Peppermint
80 drops Peppermint EO
20 drops Lemon EO

Bowl 3 – Clove (note: this one was pretty hot!)
1 T. Powdered Cloves
2 t. Powdered Cardamom
1 t. Powdered Cinnamon
80 drops Clove EO
20 Grapefruit EO

Each mixture I whisked thoroughly and put through the strainer, then whisked again and put through the strainer yet again. Store in glass jars with tight fitting lids and put in small jars to use.

If you run out of toothbrushes, just rubbing this on the teeth and using dental floss seems to get teeth cleaner than with a toothbrush and “regular” toothpaste.

P.S. You can always adjust the amount of Essential Oils to your liking. The amount I used seems like a lot but isn’t really that strong, considering the amount of Tooth Powder. You also don’t need a lot of the powder, a little goes a long way.

[SauronOfMordor]

The fun just keeps coming. When is Congress going to crack down? Probably never. They have better things to do, like facilitating the flood of illegals

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

Sorry to hear about your grandson’s teeth. But this is the exception, not the rule.

Millions of people are smiling bright white, strong-teeth smiles thanks, in part, to fluoride and fluoridated water.

I’ve never heard that toothpaste companies are using industrial byproducts. Do you have a link to a credible source?

I’m more ticked at toothpaste companies for coming out with that plaque-control toothpaste a few years ago. They never told anyone (on the packaging) that it was more abrasive than ordinary toothpaste and that you should only use it every few weeks. I wonder how many people suffered gum recession because of that toothpaste and then had to buy another of the toothpaste industry’s inventions: toothpaste for sensitive teeth (such as those whose gums have been eroded beyond the enamel line).

[LIConFem]

[hsmomx3]

Yeah, but aren’t the products in those dollar stores all made in China as opposed to the Colgates we find in our Target stores or grocery stores?

Or are they really one in the same?

[maine-iac7]

The fun just keeps coming. When is Congress going to crack down? Probably never.

Got that right.

Congresscritters are all arm in arm with the FDA, and manufacturers. They are so busy scratching each others backs and protecting big money profits -= and a lot falls into pockets (and freezers?) along the way.

The last people the congresscritters, FDA and manufacturers (and the AMA) are concerned about is - as Hitlery once referred to us, the "little people" and her hubby calls "Joe six pack"

[maine-iac7]

You ask: “Do you have a link to a credible source?”

Well, there’s a plethora of info on the net - GOOGLE is your friend -= but the contra-studies have been out there for decades.

but here’s a couple links people might like to look at:

“states, re SODIUM fluoride, the kind used in our toothpastes: “Toxicology:
Very toxic by ingestion, inhalation and skin contact. 4g may be fatal. May cause burns. Severe eye irritant. Chronic exposure may cause lung damage. TLV 2.5 mg/m3 (as F). “
http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/SO/sodium_fluoride.html

it also warns those handling it in the labs:
“Personal protection
Safety glasses; rubber or plastic gloves. Good ventilation.
Safety phrases “

you may not mind putting such stuff in your mouth - your choice.

Here’s an interesting study sponsored by the Chemical Institute of Canada: by David R. Hill, Professor Emeritus, The University of Calgary

“Disinformation in the service of big industry.”

http://www.fluoridation.com/calgaryh.htm

These are just a couple = there are dozens. Bottom line - sodium fluoride is toxic, has been used in rat poisons and given to high strung race horses when transporting as a tranquilizer - studies have reported links to cancer, bone density decrease, brain impairment - (like in the horses, makes one more docile, (less likely to make waves?)

Here’s a question for ya: If someone wanted to get a substance to the most number of people, what is the one thing - or two - that everyone uses? Ahhhmmmm. Toothpaste and water?

When Tom’s of Maine first came out with their toothpaste, the selling point was NO FLUORIDE. Sales skyrocketed and soon they were breaking into the supermarket trade with the big boys. But a funny thing happened...in order to be stocked on the big supermarket shelves, it had to capitulate and add fluoride. (It’s very difficult to find ANY toothpaste on the supermarket shelves sans fluoride.

Tom’s still makes it without, but you have to go to the health food market to find it.

Bottom line is, I - for one - do not want to ingest ANY substance that has so much question as to it’s safety.

(By the way, sodium fluoride has an accumulative effect. The warning on the tubes that FDA was finally forced to put on the tubes about if you ingest as much as a pea size amount, call the poison control center immediately - was a compromise to avoid banning it, which they should have.
But anything you put in your mouth, ‘ingested’ down the throat or not - enters you body. And, as said, this poison doesn’t pass on through day by day, but STAYS in your body and accumulates.

I for one, choose not to take the chance. But it’s a free country. Everyone is free to play lemming.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

So they’re putting fluoride in our water in order to tranquilize us? I guess they’ll need to double the dose in urban water supplies, where there is some of the most fluoridated water in the nation and also some of the highest violent crime.

‘Everyone is free to play lemming.’

You’re right.

Just like people are free to believe 9-11 conspiracy theories, ridiculous as they are. Use whatever toothpaste you want. I'll continue to use mine.

[maine-iac7]

LOL

'Loved Sterling Hayden - had the chance to meet and talk with him here in Maine a year or so before he died - he autographed his book "The Wanderer" for me.

AS a writer, he has been compared with Melville, Fitzgerald, etc - really a great writer.

AS a young man, he schooled here in Maine and started out on schooners - soon becoming a Master. During a hurricane that sank and beached many a vessel, Hayden sailed his schooner safely into port - and was photographed for the newspaper - looking like a Viking warrior - (blond, handsome, very tall) - Hollywood swooped in and picked him up...dubbing him "The Beautiful Blond Viking God "

He hated Hollywood and the whole industry. The only film he ever worked on that he liked was "Asphalt Jungle" for which he won critical acclaim. Otherwise, he looked upon acting only as a means to fund his real, as apposed to "reel" life.

He lived for years on a barge in Paris - when he ran out of money, he'd run back and do a film.

If you've never read "The Wanderer" - his story about setting sail in a two masted schooner across the pacific - defying a court order in taking his 4 children with him - he had (early 1960's) won custody of his children, almost unprecedented for a father then) but was ordered not to take them with him on his boat - no radio etc - across the ocean. So he filed a sailing plan for a sail to Catalina - but just kept on agoing until he hit Tahiti.

"The Wanderer" (name of his boat) is his story of that adventure. It is a great read - great writer.

When I met him, he was living on a boat in Sausalito - gave me address and invitation to visit - I didn't LOL - but I have a great photo of him that I took...complete with his ever present cigar.

[Jaysun]

OPE

POE

What's that mean, please?

[null and void]

Thank God I have well water.

Ever have it throughly tested?

(...and no, LittleJoe, you are never fully living it down...)