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Unintended Consequences of New Jersey’s “One Gun A Month”
Website ^ | 6/14/07 | Evan F. Nappen, Esq.

Posted on 06/14/2007 10:08:34 AM PDT by Revtwo

Putting aside the stupidity of passing such a law, serious unintended consequences will occur from enacting this bill. Assemby Bill 3511: 1) Makes 12 handguns the maximum number of handguns any retail dealer can acquire in a year, from any combination of private owners, manufacturers or wholesalers. 2) Turns unsuspecting law abiding citizens into criminals who buy more than one gun a month from two different sellers. 3) Fails to exempt members of the U.S. Armed Forces, the National Guard, bank guards, nuclear power plant guards, security guards and movie and theater production companies. 4) Protects illegal gun traffickers in New Jersey by rendering useless the federal multiple handgun sales reporting program.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; newjersey
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1 posted on 06/14/2007 10:08:36 AM PDT by Revtwo
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To: Revtwo

I wonder why he’s so sure those consequences are “unintended”.


2 posted on 06/14/2007 10:15:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

One unintended consequence will be my moving from the state of NJ as soon as I can. This state sucks.


3 posted on 06/14/2007 10:16:35 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Ditto !!


4 posted on 06/14/2007 10:20:54 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Damn,you registered with FR one day before me !!


5 posted on 06/14/2007 10:21:48 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: rightwingextremist1776

We have sane firearms laws here in NH: must-issue, open and concealed carry; inexpensive ammo available at any Wal-Mart. Many job openings and fewer moonbats, too.


6 posted on 06/14/2007 10:25:44 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: andy58-in-nh

Are you sure about that? Didn’t NH vote blue in the Kerry column?


7 posted on 06/14/2007 10:28:08 AM PDT by 38special (I mean come on.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

We need more conservatives in NH, and FAST!! The libs are trying to take over.

The winters aren’t really that cold (grin....).


8 posted on 06/14/2007 10:29:27 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: 38special
Are you sure about that? Didn’t NH vote blue in the Kerry column?

The vote was close in '04, but Kerry did win. We also had both houses of our state legislature go Democrat last year, largely due to voter anger over the Iraq war. But we're still a conservative state by New England standards, and yes, our gun laws are very favorable. I have purchased handguns here and all that is required is (minimal) paperwork and a phone call and you're good to go. I've also got a CCW permit and practice at a local range where you can easily rent anything from a .22 popgun to a Bushmaster A-4.

9 posted on 06/14/2007 10:37:10 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Renegade
I've been know to be at the tip of the spear more often then not! I was thinking of someplace more warm, like NC, SC or AZ. I wonder what effect this has on the acquisition of firearms from inheritance? My dad has a lot of family owned firearms that will have to be dealt with at some point in time....Anyone have any ideas? Has this actually passed?
10 posted on 06/14/2007 10:39:24 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: andy58-in-nh
“We have sane firearms laws here in NH: “

Isn’t this an oxymoron? How can any firearms law be sane? : )

11 posted on 06/14/2007 10:46:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Passed in the house. Some beatch up North brought it up. Her reason for writing the bill was “ Why does anyone need more than one handgun a month ? “


12 posted on 06/14/2007 10:59:50 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Only applies to handguns . I imagine inheritance would be included . Move to SC. The only law they have is Federal Check and you buy .


13 posted on 06/14/2007 11:01:40 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Renegade

Thanks...handguns are a heathy part of the collection. Oh well...he’s talking about moving as well, might as well look for two homes.


14 posted on 06/14/2007 11:06:06 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Revtwo

To me, this seems to fit my description of the “worst possible laws” being based on one thing: that their sole real purpose is to “make things easier” for bureaucrats.

That is, it is an axiom that a primary reason for creating a law is that it will “make things easier” for government employees, that law is *guaranteed* to be a stinker.

Not just as it relates to gun control, either. For example, surveillance and traffic cameras used to enforce laws, instead of having policemen on duty. Truly a bad idea.

Public identity cards with lots of biometric information on them, correlated to complex databases and bulky dossiers on citizens, instead of having trained security personnel. Truly a bad idea.

On the surface they look and are abusive, but in truth the government often wants them less to be authoritarian, than to “make their job easier”. That is, because of laziness and inefficiency.

It is a hallmark of authoritarian governments that they tend to *ignore* the important things that government is *supposed* to do, in favor of obsessively policing things of little importance. They do not care about war and peace, or crime and violence. But they care intensely about when people eat their lunch, and what brand of toilet paper they use.

With wisdom, a good government can handle the big things; but a bad government prefers to involve itself in minutia. It just seems easier. But in truth, they are too lazy and incompetent to manage the minutia either. So they are always on the look out for the “deux ex machina” that will do their work for them.

And that means passing really dumb laws.

Case in point, this gun control law was “sold” on the idea of limiting gun purchases. But in truth, the real reason is that the bureaucrats in charge of monitoring gun sales want less work, which they will only get if fewer guns get sold.

Guns aren’t their problem. Lazy and inefficient government is their problem.


15 posted on 06/14/2007 11:13:22 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"“We have sane firearms laws here in NH: “ Isn’t this an oxymoron? How can any firearms law be sane? : )"

How about the law that prevents insane people from buying a gun, or prevents a dealer selling a gun to an intoxicated person? Or one requiring a young person to pass a hunting and firearms safety class - usually taught by the NRA - before they can obtain a hunting license?

Do you honestly feel that all gun laws are insane, or are you just a little keyed-up this morning?

16 posted on 06/14/2007 11:15:21 AM PDT by Hoof Hearted
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To: Popocatapetl

Fair Tax would certainly “make things easier” for government employees at the IRS (sit home collecting unemployment) yet would not be a bad thing at all.


17 posted on 06/14/2007 11:19:41 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: dashing doofus
We need more conservatives in NH, and FAST!! The libs are trying to take over. The winters aren’t really that cold (grin....).

I say the same thing about MI..
18 posted on 06/14/2007 11:21:49 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

>My dad has a lot of family owned firearms that will have to be dealt with at some point in time....Anyone have any ideas?<

The best option is to move to a state that isn’t afaraid to have citizens owning handguns and keep them. Next best would be to give them to a family member who lives in one of those states. Third is to put them in storage with a trusted friend in one of those states.

One thing to keep in mind is that their is a limit to how many firearms you can sell each year in private sales before you need a FFL. I think it is six but I am not sure.


19 posted on 06/14/2007 11:23:41 AM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: Hoof Hearted

if you’re insane, why are you allowed to walk free?
please cite law restricting sales to intoxicated persons. usually its common sense due to liability.
why do i need a “class”? my dad taught me better than any class.


20 posted on 06/14/2007 11:29:06 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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