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Spokesman for President Bush Posts on Free Republic About Immigration Bill
Thursday, June 14, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 06/14/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Thank you!

No doubt,a vision of things to come.


1,741 posted on 06/19/2007 12:15:03 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (“You’re going to have to [give illegals] aspirations of citizenship” F. Thompson, 2006)
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To: Kimberly GG

Quite Welcome,,,”Those People” will never stop their
attack on “Our Race”,,,The American Race,,,We The People...


1,742 posted on 06/19/2007 12:35:24 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Kimberly GG

The only places I’ve ever seen that quote are sources who may not be completely reliable- it’s an interesting quote if he really said it.


1,743 posted on 06/19/2007 12:39:17 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: LilAngel
You don't have a clue and absolutely no reading comprehension skills. I NEVER said I was for illegal immigration. I merely corrected someone with facts when they said there was no enforcement, then ya'll went off on a rant about other issues that I never even brought into the equation and I told you that I wasn't going to deal with those issues because they had no bearing on the facts I presented. It's not me that's spinning lies, dear...I gave the enforcement facts right off of the Govt. website. As I posted to someone else earlier, "For the record, I don’t support this bill. But I’ll be damned if I am going to sit by and let people lie about the facts as that one poster did."

To put it so you can understand it (if that is possible), if ICE picks up and deports 10,000 illegals and 1,000 of them come back across the border, that does not mean that the full 10,000 were not deported by ICE. Instead of taking into consideration the fact that 10,000 were deported, I get this "so what, 1,000 came back across the border" attitude. I give credit where credit is due, sorry if you don't, but I deal with facts not rhetoric.

Again, for the record, I am for:

The border fence

A time limit for application for a temporary worker program. If they don't apply by the deadline they are SOL.

Criminal background checks with all convicted criminals immediately deported

Fines for those that broke the immigration laws

Databases set up to track those who are approved

Making sure that those that do stay are gainfully employed and sponsored by their employer who would have to certify that they have made a good faith effort to find Americans to fill those jobs.

The employer would be required to conform to all labor standards, including minimum wage requirements and equal pay standards

A limit on the Visa (maybe 3 years?), so they have to go back and reapply from outside after that, getting in line behind those that already applied.

Immediate family only entry

No anchor babies

I put them in a list format so you can hopefully process the information without going into overload. Now you try something new, like not twisting my words and distorting my views.

Oh, and just for grins, here's another clue for you...see post #27 and #38 as well as other posts on that thread. I was supporting Tancredo's co-sponsored bill back in 2005 and didn't think it was nearly enough. I have one more comment in mind, but I might get banned for it...but suffice it to say you have a certain hand gesture pointed in your direction.

1,744 posted on 06/19/2007 12:40:19 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Poor misunderstood and picked-on you. Nobody understands your superior genius, because you’re the only one who can read. Everybody who reads your posts claiming that enforcement is increased thinks you’re telling that lie for a reason. All because we have no reading comprehension.


1,745 posted on 06/19/2007 6:04:59 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: DrewsMum
IT’S A SLAP IN HER FACE

Actually, I think we've moved in to act of war territory with this one. Bush hates that you believe what you do. Bush is openly hostile to Americans. To his way of seeing things, we are the Weapons of Mass Destruction he must destroy. If you want a border, Bush wants you dead, politically, for sure. Back to slaps and hostility and that meme: We are in a war. The political/globalist classes against the American classes. I'm glad we have guns. I am ready to stand guard at the border. I don't know why we don't form a human wall as act of protest and public service. Boss, I need off next month. My wall duty's coming up. Anyway, I'm rambling: Take away point: Bush hates you. A lot.

1,746 posted on 06/19/2007 6:24:20 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Pray. Make Babies. Teach. Repeat.)
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To: LilAngel

I have provided credible sources for my information and you have provided nothing but rhetoric. The facts at the ICE enforcement links speak for themselves, and as for your accusation that I have an agenda, I provided you links from years ago that show I supported Tancredo’s bill, so those assertions also have no basis in fact. BTW, you might want to adjust your ego a little, because you don’t speak for everyone else. Anyone that knows my research skills...and I have been a member here over 6 years...knows that I never would provide false information.


1,748 posted on 06/20/2007 6:13:49 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

You are the one who spoke for all of us when you called us “ya’ll” then went on to speak for us. I commented on your pretense that we’re all picking on you because we have no reading comprehension. I only speak for myself. I can’t make the others respond to you, or stop them from responding. If you want them to speak for themselves, you might start by pinging them, instead of just referring to them in a post to me, and then interpreting my response as theirs.


1,749 posted on 06/20/2007 8:54:35 AM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: FreeRadical

“I don’t know why we don’t form a human wall as act of protest and public service”

Name the date and time and I’m there. Why hasn’t someone thought of this before?? ;0)


1,750 posted on 06/20/2007 8:59:17 AM PDT by DrewsMum (If con is the opposite of pro, then wouldn't CONgress be the opposite of PROgress?..I'm just sayin..)
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To: ravingnutter

Btw, who are these other people you’re talking about?


1,751 posted on 06/20/2007 9:01:16 AM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: LilAngel
From your post, underlining of pertinent words added by me:

Everybody who reads your posts claiming that enforcement is increased thinks you’re telling that lie for a reason. All because we have no reading comprehension.

That should answer your question. When I explained to the others that posted back to me that I was just responding to correct a post about no enforcement by providing links to facts that show enforcement has increased, they understood, you didn't. Those people are the "y'all" that I was referring to in the context that each one brought up another aspect on this issue that I was not addressing such as aliens coming back across the border, as one example. They responded in a civil manner once they realized that I was just trying to correct the poster with facts pertaining to his comments. You however, decided to continue to attack me, question my motives and call me a liar even though I provided you with clear evidence to the contrary.

1,752 posted on 06/20/2007 9:59:13 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you for explaining your lack of reading comprehension. Now see if you can find the post I was responding to when I paraphrased your whining.

Face it. You lied about the level of overall enforcement, misrepresenting a piece of data to suggest it means something it really doesn’t mean. And apparently I wasn’t the only one who noticed. Enforcement of our immigration laws is down, not up. Why would you tell a lie that negates what you claim to believe, unless you don’t really believe what you claim?


1,753 posted on 06/20/2007 12:36:07 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: LilAngel
You really are that dense aren't you? Here is the only place I used the word y'all:

I merely corrected someone with facts when they said there was no enforcement, then ya'll went off on a rant about other issues that I never even brought into the equation and I told you that I wasn't going to deal with those issues because they had no bearing on the facts I presented.

Put it in context, dear, I was talking about people ranting about other issues besides the facts I posted. I never stated "y'all had no reading comprehension", just that YOU didn't.

Don't bother to post to me again, I won't respond because apparently you will never get it through that thick skull.

1,754 posted on 06/20/2007 1:00:23 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Always Right
If the government is not going to deport known illegals, how can they fine and punish people who employ them and house them?

By punishing those who employ and house them, they would cause the illegals to deport themselves, thus fulfilling their duty to deport the illegals.
1,755 posted on 06/20/2007 1:53:36 PM PDT by newguy357
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To: truthkeeper

Pinging Rolling Thunder and I’m only on post #64!!!


1,756 posted on 06/20/2007 2:40:20 PM PDT by spald
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To: kristinn

Protect our Borders FIRST!!!!! DEPORT CRIMINALS!!!!!!


1,757 posted on 06/21/2007 11:41:49 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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1,758 posted on 06/24/2007 5:16:14 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: kristinn
If our borders were secure in the first place, employers would not have to be burdened with verifying whether their hires are legal or not.

As a former recruiter the 1986 law was a total joke with regard to completing the government's form requirements. No one from the government ever showed up to review these forms.

I did believe them in 1986, but I do not believe them now. This is amnesty and no secure borders.

1,759 posted on 06/26/2007 9:04:22 PM PDT by harpo11 (Viva La Talk Radio!!! Keep the Air Waves Roaring Loud & Proud--Power to the Voices of Freedom)
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