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Vietnam-era Navy plane takes aim at new enemy: Iraq's roadside bombs
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | June 12, 2007 | Jim Krane, AP

Posted on 06/15/2007 6:51:38 AM PDT by RDTF

ABOARD THE USS NIMITZ IN THE GULF – A secret aircraft that debuted in Vietnam and usually protects U.S. fighter jets has taken on a different and crucial task over Iraq – trying to stop the scourge of roadside bombs by jamming ground signals from mobile phones and garage door openers. The EA-6B Prowler is thought to be one of the most effective U.S. weapons against the bombs, the biggest killer of American service members in Iraq. But no one can be sure: Even supporters say its effectiveness is hard to measure.

The aircraft debuted at the tail end of Vietnam and was used in Kosovo and the 1991 Gulf War, escorting U.S. attack jets while jamming military radios, hostile radars and air defense batteries aimed at them. These days the Prowler focuses its jammers on smaller signals: those of mobile phones and garage door openers that are used to trigger roadside bombs in Iraq, said U.S. Navy Capt. David Woods, 49, of Ogden, Utah.

Often, it's hard to prove that a roadside bomb failed to explode because of Prowler jamming signals, Woods said. Still, he's confident the plane is making a difference against the bombs, which the military calls improvised explosive devices, or IEDs.

“When it's flying we have greater success and fewer IEDs going off,” Woods said. “It's kind of an insurance policy.”

Woods, the commander of Carrier Air Wing Eleven and one of the Navy's most experienced Prowler pilots, says few people understand the EA-6B's mission, which is to control the electromagnetic spectrum so allies can use it – but not enemies.

The Prowler and its electronic warfare system is so valuable it has never been exported – even to close allies. Details about the training of crew members are secret.

(Excerpt) Read more at cfx.signonsandiego.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; ieds; iraq; oif; prowler; usn; ussnimitz
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To: doorgunner69
Was going to design one about the size of a paperback book for restaurant use, but got sidetracked.

BTW, could you get back on track with that again? LOL!
101 posted on 06/15/2007 7:57:41 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: traditional1

I’ve heard stories of “Queers” frying television sets and garage door openers in Virginia Beach, when they radiated the right device at the wrong time, or in the wrong area...


102 posted on 06/15/2007 7:58:59 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: Bean Counter
LOL...

Reminds me of the Gerbil and mailing tube joke !

103 posted on 06/15/2007 8:03:06 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Bean Counter
Haven’t heard the EA-6B called that for a while, Chief. I’ve heard them called worse but it was from NVN SAM sites. Never repeated though.
104 posted on 06/15/2007 8:06:40 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: toddlintown
GLQ-3B? It would light florescent bulbs a mile away.
I think I’m the only 98C with a K3 suffix.
105 posted on 06/16/2007 5:26:42 AM PDT by ASA Vet (K-3 = Soviet tactical Nuclear weapons homing beacon operator)
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To: Robert Warren Linville
This is what Lt. Bush flew.


106 posted on 06/16/2007 5:31:29 AM PDT by ASA Vet (K-3 = Soviet tactical Nuclear weapons homing beacon operator)
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To: Incorrigible

From its root as an Intruder, that AC has always reminded me of a sandshark.

Suspose that’s entirely fitting now....


107 posted on 06/16/2007 5:32:32 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Robert Warren Linville
Here's the pilot Lt. Bush.


108 posted on 06/16/2007 5:46:50 AM PDT by ASA Vet (K-3 = Soviet tactical Nuclear weapons homing beacon operator)
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To: Old Sarge

Hey!

I know what OPSEC means!

Oh.... Under 40.......

so much for that.......


109 posted on 06/16/2007 5:52:01 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built)
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To: Dumpster Baby; toddlintown
Thanks for the info. I am sure very smart people(hellovalot smarter than me, for sure) have been searching for ways to make this system smaller and more mobile.

irresistible and unmissable target for sure, toddlintown. ;-)

Back to the drawing board.

110 posted on 06/16/2007 8:23:32 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (The President, the Senate, the House,has surrendered to 20 million criminals. Anarchy? Hell yes!)
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To: RDTF

Better yet, every 10 minutes, broadcast all cellphone and garage door opener codes and signals.


111 posted on 06/16/2007 8:28:12 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Bean Counter
I’ve heard stories of “Queers” frying television sets and garage door openers in Virginia Beach, when they radiated the right device at the wrong time, or in the wrong area...

That's what Tom Clancey's characters call them in "Red Storm Rising" and other stories. It cracked me up the first time I saw it because it was exactly typical of salty fighter pilot humor.

112 posted on 06/16/2007 8:59:38 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: RDTF

We should be using another VietNam era weapon as well. It’s called the B-52. Any questions?


113 posted on 06/16/2007 9:01:39 AM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: stm
The Prowler is living proof that an aircraft does not have to be a stealthy, super high tech (and mega $$) aircraft like the Raptor to perform brilliantly.

The Navy is going in the wrong direction entirely by trying to replace this aircraft with a version of the Hornet. Crew will be reduced by 50% and the process will have to be automated considerably to accomodate the loss of crew.

You got it - Cost savings for the sake of "theoretical" cost savings is a dangerous game...and is/will cost us lives.

The Prowler (EAB6) should have been upgraded based off itself - Just as the 14's (Cat's) should have - We've made the 18's a jack of all trades but not expectational at anything....(and the cost savings aren't what they were all suppose to be to boot....for universal equipment replacement).

114 posted on 06/16/2007 2:43:20 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: TChris
Why aren't they just outfitting our convoy vehicles with jammers? This shouldn't be a terribly difficult thing to do.

We are - EAB-6 are an effective overlap to a degree - Problem is, many of the IEDs we are facing are LOS (Line of Sight) IEDs hardwired to the detonator. Jammers just aren't much help Vs these....

115 posted on 06/16/2007 2:47:52 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: RDTF

I read the title and was hoping the story would be about the A1 Skyraider.


116 posted on 06/16/2007 10:56:24 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RDTF

I flew on these a few times in Da Nang. We had a cowboy as a pilot, fun guy. Once he took us from ground to 35 - 40 K in about one minute; THAT was a rush.

Another time, he didn’t warn us, but took the hook at Da Nang. I never realized til then that Da Nang AFB had an arrester. ANOTHER rush!

Great times.


117 posted on 06/17/2007 8:13:42 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
A.A., You and Mr. Rogers have been over this ground before.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601668/posts

Since he has flown in both types, and I personally like his conclusions better, I'll side with him. ;^)

But you're right, the Raven and the Prowler were designed for two different missions. The Raven doesn't have to survive cat shots, sea spray, or arrested landings. The Raven had supersonic dash capability and a 1300 mile combat radius. The Raven could lead a strike package consisting of F-15Es or F-16s and keep up. And the Raven had a 1200 mile combat radius.

The Prowler was originally designed to accompany subsonic strike packages, so supersonic dash was not important. The Intruder's 800 mile combat radius was adequate because it was as good or better than the combat radius of the carrier strike packages it originally was designed to accompany. However, with the (stupid) early retirement of the Ravens, the Prowler fleet is being overtaxed trying to do both Navy and Air Force missions.

With the Growler, one can see which way the Navy is going for it's future EW, and it looks more like the Raven than the Prowler.

118 posted on 06/18/2007 9:48:01 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Incorrigible

I’ve always liked the looks of that bird........


119 posted on 06/18/2007 9:49:19 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Ever feel like chewed twine?)
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To: monocle
Shape can only overcome so much. The angle of incidence is still an important factor. Have you ever heard of flying under the radar?

Can you say "Been there. Done That"? I flew Prowlers for roughly 10 years with the Marine Corps, VMAQ-2, VMAQ-3, VMAQ-4.

The antenna shapes defines the shape of the lobe. Each band has its own unique antenna, which are depressed at an angle respective of the average airspeed of a strike package 360-420 kias at 10,000'-15,000' msl. This gives maximum coverage of the victim radar at peak output. Physics are the limiting factor, and wave forms are tricky animals.

Prowlers were an integral part of every strike package in Desert Storm and were a go, no-go criteria. We were also the only airframes over Bosnia that had three sensors with which the ROE specified was necessary to verify compliance with the Dayton Accords. All other aircraft had to collaborate with AWACS and a Prowler.


120 posted on 06/18/2007 8:26:39 PM PDT by rjsimmon
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