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To: beejaa
When a child has two mommies, there is an underlying message that the father did not care to become involved in the child’s life.

You could make the same statement about a child with one mommy. Or, perhaps you could take the point of view that perhaps Daddy did care, but the court system shut him out of the child's life. We have support enforcement, but we do not have equivalent 'visitation enforcement' to assure that dads who pay get to see their kids.

Besides, whether gay marriage, civil unions, or domestic partnerships are sanctioned by a state or not, there is nothing to stop a pair of lesbians with a male friend and a turkey baster. The observations you make about these fatherless children will continue to be made. Why not have a system that at least makes two people (if the non-biological parent so desires) financially responsible for the life they decided to bring into the world?

25 posted on 06/15/2007 12:24:19 PM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: hunter112

“When a child has two mommies, there is an underlying message that the father did not care to become involved in the child’s life.”

“You could make the same statement about a child with one mommy...”
“And why should homosexual people, not being part of the problem of drive-thru marriage, serial monogamy, no-fault divorce, or child abandonment, be made to wait longer at the gates, because the heterosexuals screwed up matrimony?”

You’re making the assumption that one type of marriage is as good as another. People with your views ensure that we will continue to conduct yet another social experiment on ourselves, since gay marriage has never existed until recently and we have no idea what the long-term ramifications will be. How will these children fare as adults? Wait another 30 years, the same way we did with no-fault divorce. It takes time for the results of these experiments to become apparent. The reason why the sky has not fallen in Mass. over same-sex marriage is because the children are only a few years older, not 20 or 30 years older. Gradual social erosion is much more common than drastic change.

It amazes me that some people think that it is a matter of high principle to set up marriage so that children can be deliberately deprived of a mother or father. Left-wing people continue to attack traditional marriage, and when they see the results of their attacks, the erosion of traditional marriage, they point to that as a reason to procede with gay marriage.

A lot of us here sense that all of this is leading us to a bad place. We’re already paying a price for past social experiments and you favor enacting more of them.


35 posted on 06/16/2007 7:55:14 AM PDT by beejaa (HY)
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