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Urge your senators not to fall for Bush's addition of $4.4 billion
6/15/07 | Self

Posted on 06/15/2007 11:03:02 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Don't be fooled by the president's addition of funds for the fence and new border guards. If the bill is passed this way, one of the president's flunkies will challenge the constitutionality of the funding and will WIN because all spending bills MUST originate in the House. The result will be no new fencing and no new security measures. Just like Bush wanted it in the first place.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alien; baitandswitch; illegal; illegalimmigration; invasion; judicialbypass; noamnestyforillegals; sexedupvampirebill; unconstitutional; vampirebill
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1 posted on 06/15/2007 11:03:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

All he did was tart up the Bill.


2 posted on 06/15/2007 11:05:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Blood of Tyrants

3 posted on 06/15/2007 11:05:29 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Worry not. This President and his coterie at the White House are far beyond fooling most of us by this point, any more so than the assorted poltroons in Congress. A pox upon all of them.


4 posted on 06/15/2007 11:05:32 AM PDT by Blennos (Baton Rouge)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s like I said in another post...


I want to see mass arrests of illegal aliens, deportations of illegal aliens, raids on plants employing illegal aliens, arrests of executives in companies that hire illegal aliens. In other words, I want to see aggressive enforcing of the laws that we have now, without enacting new laws.

And then, I would like to see a completed fence (preferably a double one with a no-man’s land in-between) along the complete border with aggressive monitoring and arrests for anyone attempting to come across.

I would like to see an increase in the manpower along the border along with extra manpower enforcing the current laws, and do what was said up above.

When all these things have been exhausted in their implementations, then we can talk about any new measures that are needed.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850228/posts?page=95#95

Regards,
Star Traveler


5 posted on 06/15/2007 11:06:46 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I don’t know what to say. Both my Pubbie Senators didn’t need the $4B to cave in, heck they’re leading the charge against us (McQueeg & Kyl).


6 posted on 06/15/2007 11:08:07 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: Blood of Tyrants

All he did was ‘authorize’ the money. Nothing gets past the House Appropriations without a vote, then it goes to the Senate.

Once again, shell games!!

WHAT HAPPENED TO CIVICS 101???????????????????????????????


7 posted on 06/15/2007 11:08:59 AM PDT by poobear (Pure democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. God save the Republic!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, now Bush has sunk to a new low. He is now a lobbyist.

$4.4B is a lot of lobbying. They will probably stick with him, they are all just common thieves at this point anyway.


8 posted on 06/15/2007 11:10:20 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: AU72

"The Senate gets five billion dollars and the rest of you can eat cake hepatitis,
tuberculosis, Morgellons disease, typhoid, measles, syphillis, mumps, leprosy, dengue fever, cholera, plague, and polio"

9 posted on 06/15/2007 11:10:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I never thought that I would see the day when I would advocate the removal of a Republican President on the charge of treason.


10 posted on 06/15/2007 11:13:01 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What is in it for President George W. Bush? The 3 Bs come to mind: Blackmail, bribery, brainwashing. He is way, way too obsessed.


11 posted on 06/15/2007 11:13:42 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Farmer Dean

“I never thought that I would see the day when I would advocate the removal of a Republican President on the charge of treason.”

I never thought so either but I am sick and tired of ole’ W!
What the hell happened to him? I also wonder about the people he has chosen to be in his administration. Are they all brain dead?


12 posted on 06/15/2007 11:16:30 AM PDT by Cricket24 (ULTRA PATRIOT!!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I don’t know what to say. Both my Pubbie Senators didn’t need the $4B to cave in, heck they’re leading the charge against us (McQueeg & Kyl).

I e-mailed Kyl during the first attempt. The other day, I received a 4 page letter "explaining" how Amnesty is good for me.

Unfortunately, Kyl just got reelected in 2006, so he's got another 5 years to look for a job. I don't think he stands a chance of holding office in Arizona after 2012.

13 posted on 06/15/2007 11:17:22 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They don’t think we’re smart enough to figure this out.

Here is the text of an email I received on teh subject:

DEAR FRIENDS,

Apparently 15 Republican Senators who voted NO on cloture on the S. 1348 amnesty bill a week ago have told Senate GOP Leader McConnell (R-Ky.) that they are willing to flip and vote YES next week.

What can you say — and how — to these FLIPPIN’ FIFTEEN that might “unflip” enough of them to keep the amnesty cloture from getting the necessary 60 votes?

Below are some answers we’ve picked up from many Senate sources the last couple of days — as well as from stories that many of you have told us.

202-224-3121

Don’t forget to call the local offices of your Senators. Those numbers can be found by clicking here.

We have every reason to believe that the right voices and the right information can still pull a number of the Senators back from supporting S. 1348.

TIP NO. 1: Tell them that the grand compromise of S. 1348 makes Senators accept a huge amnesty in exchange for a promise to end future illegal immigration. But the bill’s actual provisions make no promises of lower illegal immigration and set no numerical reduction goals at all.

While most phone calls to Senators recently have stressed the caller’s hatred of amnesty, it might be a good idea today to focus on whether the trade-off for the amnesty can work.

There are a number of good reasons to think that many of the Flippin’ Fifteen truly believe that, as much as they regret accepting an amnesty, it can be justified because illegal immigration will finally be brought under control.

You need to find every opportunity to tell staffers, Senators and anybody else that the bill is unworkable in fighting illegal immigration. Look at Rosemary Jenks’ short summary of the details of S. 1348. (Scroll down to BACKGROUND INFORMATION.)

TIP NO. 2: “Show me the results, not just the money.”

Pres. Bush and the chief architects of this giant amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens have just now persuaded more than a dozen Republicans to change their votes in part because the President is promising a big increase in spending on enforcement.

But we’ve seen huge amounts of money spent on enforcement in the past with little result.

Let staffers know that the only thing that counts with you is proof of substantial reductions in future illegal immigration. Even if somebody thinks it a good idea to reward millions of illegal aliens with the right to work and live here, surely it makes sense to withhold any legalization until funding and enforcement efforts have actually resulted in substantial reductions of the illegal population?

TIP NO. 3: Talk facts and details.

Staffers are listening for any details about the bill that show you know what you are talking about. Some of these fence-straddling Senators have been expressing amazement about all the details many voters in their states know about S. 1348.

When Pres. Bush came to their lunch Tuesday, people in the room said his body language and facial expressions showed genuine surprise at the number of Senators who told him that it isn’t just the “immigration crazies” who are objecting to the bill. Rather, they said, regular middle class people are expressing their distrust and backing it up with real details from the bill.

TIP NO. 4: Speak calmly.

Staffers’ ear drums are ringing from a month of outrage shouted at them through the phones. They’re tuning it out now. What gets their attention is a conversational tone from a constituent who sincerely shares a concern. Passion can be expressed calmly. (Always try to think of these staffers as perhaps slightly inexperienced nieces and nephews who could use a litle kindness.)

TIP NO. 5: All “touch back” provisions that require the illegal aliens to leave the country briefly are meaningless to voters concerned about amnesty.

Pro-amnesty leaders use the touch-back provisions to try to fool voters into thinking that the illegal aliens would be allowed to live here permanently in a process no different from anybody else.

In fact, though, the illegal aliens would just be doing the hokey pokey (”put your right foot out / put your right foot in / put your fight foot out / and then you can pretend”). The permanent residence they would be given would be possible only because they broke the law in the first place.

But most importantly, these touch-back provisions so dear to Sen. Hutchinson (R-Texas) have nothing to do with slowing down illegal immigration in the future.

TIP NO. 6: Note to them that Ted Kennedy has already pushed SEVEN amnesties into law. None was followed by a reduction in illegal immigration. Why should anybody believe this one will be?

1. In 1986, Ted Kennedy’s blanket amnesty for 2.7 million illegal aliens promised a lot more enforcement but did not set any requirments for actual reductions in illegal immigration. The illegal flow continued.
2. In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally. The illegal flow continued.
3. In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.
4. In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.
5. In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti. The illegal flow continued.
6. In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty. Illegal immigration continued unimpeded.
7. In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty., an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.

Now, Ted Kennedy is saying that this amnesty is necessary if we are ever to stop the flow of illegal aliens. Why would any of these Senators believe him when he says this amnesty bill will end illegal immigration with a track record like his?

WHICH ONES OF THESE WILL BE THE FLIPPIN’ FIFTEEN?

You may want to put most of your effort into this list. All of the se are vulnerable to changing positions since they were willing to vote for cloture last year on an even worse McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill.

These are the Republican Senators who ended up voting NO on cloture last week. But they were willing to vote YES last year. This shows a vulnerability to flip. Can you stop them?

(Names marked with an * are up for re-election in 2008.)

Bennett (R-UT)
* Cochran (R-MS)
* Coleman (R-MN)
* Collins (R-ME)
* Craig (R-ID)
* Domenici (R-NM)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
* McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
* Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
* Warner (R-VA)

In addition, Sen. Brownback (R-Kan.) didn’t cast a vote last week but he was a strong YES voter for amnesty last year.

The following Senators voted NO on amnesty cloture both last year and last week. But our friends and our lobbying staff believe they need bolstering to keep them from falling for Ted Kennedy’s latest amnesty.

Burr (R-N.C.)
Chambliss (R-Ga.)
Ensign (R-Nev.)
Isakson (R-Ga.)
Thune (R-S.D.)

That makes 23 from whom Sen. McConnell can hope to get just 15 votes to pass cloture and the amnesty next week.

Several days of voting on amendments could start as early as next Tuesday.

One of our members wrote to me a little after midnight and noted a quote from Winston Churchill’s “Memoirs of the Second World War.”

Criticizing the British politicians in the years before WWII, Churchill wrote:

“The left and the right joined forces with fatuity at a terrible price to be paid later.”

The American Heritage dictionary (New College Edition) defines “fatuity” as “stupidity conveyed with an air of pride or self-satisfaction.”

The followers of Ted Kennedy and George Bush can’t stop patting themselves on the back in pride for their grand immigration compromise. But what a price we will all pay if they succeed.

When you call the offices of the above Senators, you will be giving them a chance to escape this great fatuity of our time.

THANKS

And remember these phone numbers:

1-800-417-7666

1-866-220-0044

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


14 posted on 06/15/2007 11:19:25 AM PDT by TBP
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And another email that came into my box (I’m on several of these lists):

For those of you that are new, please stay on course with your Senate calls in opposition to Scamnesty bill S. 1348.

For those of you that are sick of calling the Senate. We have a new tactic for you.

1.

Please start calling the state GOP offices to carry the following messages.

“Amnesty bill S. 1348 will destroy the GOP if it passes. I will make sure that nobody in my family or peer group will ever contribute to the (STATE NAME) GOP if this bill is not stopped. Americans want immigration enforcement, not amnesty, guest worker, path to citizenship, whatever you want to call it.”

Take your messages to the GOP State Chairs! Let’s do this by the thousands and light em up good on the phones!

STATE GOP CHAIR LIST AND NUMBERS
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=68408

Also,

2.

Please read and distribute this new Article release. The messages contained in this piece should perk up some GOP ears!

The Great Illegal Immigration Depression. Bush is Hoover!
June 14, 2007

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2265


15 posted on 06/15/2007 11:21:27 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Don't be fooled by the president's addition of funds for the fence
and new border guards.


Of coure not.
Dubya is pulling a "bait and switch".
He'll make sure there are "security provisions" in the bill that passes.

And then Senator Lott will have them excised/neutered in the reconciled
bill.

And anything else Dubya, Reid, LaRaza, Brownback, McCain, et al
don't like will be thrown out by some court, e.g., environmental
concerns over a border fence although many thousand of illegals take
a dump on our southern border every year.
16 posted on 06/15/2007 11:22:08 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yet another email I got:

I was just informed that the back-room plan is currently underway
to bring Bush-Kennedy back and get it quickly passed through the
Senate. I call it “amendments for amnesty.”

Here’s what’s happening.

President Bush and the Amnesty Republicans are attempting to
convince about a dozen Republicans to support “cloture” on
Bush-Kennedy in exchange for a commitment that a set list
of amendments will be considered — thus, “amendments for amnesty.”

Also, Bush and the amnesty leaders are strong-arming conservatives
into accepting the “amendments for amnesty” deal or face being
banished into Senate oblivion.

Amnesty Republicans have already submitted their list of amendments
to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Once the “amendments for
amnesty” deal is finalized between Reid and the Republicans,
the bill will be quickly brought back to the floor. The amendments
will be defeated and amnesty passed.

+ + We can stop “Amendments For Amnesty”!

Tim, this is the FOURTH TIME our leaders have gone
behind closed doors to work out some secret scheme to get this
bill passed. Despite unprecedented and overwhelming grassroots
opposition, they think they can still pull off their legislative,
slight-of-hand trickery!

+ + Call to Action #1 — Call these Senators and say you oppose
this “Amendments for Amnesty” deal

Sen. Mikulski 202-224-4654
Sen. Cardin (202) 224-4524

Key Senators to call:

McConnell 202/224-2541
Lott 202/224-6253
Kyl 202/224-4521
Brownback 202/224-6521
Burr 202/224-3154
Chambliss 202/224-3521
Cornyn 202/224-2934
Hutchison 202/224-5922
Isakson 202/224-3643
Warner 202/224-2023
Webb 202/224-4024

Talking Points (Your calls will carry more weight if you are
polite and respectful!):

1. I understand that Senate leaders are working on a back-room deal
that will bring the Amnesty bill back for a vote in exchange
for consideration on certain amendments.

2. I oppose this “Amendments for Amnesty” deal.

3. If you support this deal, then you will forever be listed as
a supporter of amnesty.

4. The American people have spoken in opposition to this amnesty
bill. I urge you to oppose this deal and the bill.

+ + Call to Action #2 — We need more faxes and help with a new
blockbuster “Where’s The Fence?” ad

I have added each of these targeted Senators to our FaxFire system.
We need to keep a constant stream of faxes into these offices and
literally the entire Senate — along with the White House until
this horrific “amnesty” legislation is dead and buried. Go here
to send your faxes NOW:

http://www.grassfire.org/19042/offer.asp?rid=12459667

We also have a blockbuster new “Where’s The Fence?”(tm) spot in final
development that will specifically target any senator who helps
bring this bill back for a vote.

These ads will forever affix “amnesty” to the key senators who
strike this “amendments for amnesty” deal. I need funds immediately.
Go here to donate:

http://www.grassfire.org/20042/offer.asp?rid=12459667

I won’t apologize for my frequent updates — as news develops
I feel I must keep you informed.

Please take action and be sure to see below for highlights of
the some of the media coverage of Grassfire in the past few days.

Thanks for taking a stand to stop amnesty!


17 posted on 06/15/2007 11:22:39 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Holy smokes, it is like that movie...


18 posted on 06/15/2007 11:27:05 AM PDT by M203M4 (Vote Fruity Giuliani or the terrists will win! Abortion & gun control = price for freedumb!)
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To: Blennos
No kidding, I’m going Libertarian for a political party and the Bush Pubbies can kiss my arse. I won’t start smoking dope but I’d need to to stay in the Republican Party.
19 posted on 06/15/2007 11:27:09 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: TBP

That illegal pictured with Bush is pretty hot! Are all illegals that way? hehehe (Actually I don’t know who she is, legal or not)


20 posted on 06/15/2007 11:27:26 AM PDT by DonaldC
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