Posted on 06/15/2007 1:18:56 PM PDT by FARS
DIRECT VIDEO LINK plus some interesting comments below it.
What's "not new" are ridiculous perpetual motion/energy schemes breathlessly covered by idiotic mainstream media without a shred of scientific knowledge.
Big Oil is going to sink this one with cement blocks
Over 50 years ago my grandfather (who was an unsuccessful inventor) designed a ship that was powered by salt water where electricity was conducted by reason of reactions between two metal plates in the salt water. The problem was that, in practice, the metal plates had to be huge. Very huge. Very, very huge...
Hopefully sinking a cancer cure might provide some extra difficulty for them.
The bigger problem is one of the metal plates is eaten away in the process - that’s where the chemical energy comes from...
Nothings free.
It takes energy to pump crude out of a well, to transport it, to refine it and to deliver it to the consumer.
With all of that taken into consideration, the cancer cure / fuel solution may end up less expensive and easier to implement without any label of perpetual machine being slappped onto it.
So there willl be a cost to generating this. More than oil costs? Doubt it. So less at the pump or in home heating costs.
What say you?
Problem is, you have to put far more energy into it than you will ever get out of it. Further, storing a mixture of Oxygen and Hydrogen gas in any significant amount would be criminally stupid. (Boom!)
I have looked into this before with other claims of water fuel. It seems this guy has figured out another way to break H2O in to HHO. I can't tell if his radio waves take more or less energy than other methods like electrolysis. But lets say the radio waves are more efficient. At the end of the day you still only have two Hydrogen molecules for potential energy (with an efficient injection of one oxygen molecule for combustion). This is compared to 18 Hydrogen molecule in octane gas. This means I need a tank on my car 9 times bigger to travel 250-300 mile on a tank of salt water.
If this were true, it could help put some of those crazy arab states out of business.
But yes, the people in the video do not say that their discovery has produced more energy than was put into it. The first law of thermodynamics lives!
The only problem is that it takes more energy to create the conditions for the fire than is released. Congress will love it! They can put it on their list, with ethanol.
So, your grandfather could have been ahead of his time.
Yes but with crude we start with free energy. With saltwater you start with expensive electricity. Even if it were 99% efficient, you get nothing but a loss of 1% of what you started with. But you have to pay for what you started with.
Doesn't need Big Oil to sink it. Any high school physics student can easily point out the flaws.
Love the tin-foil hat.Does it come with a box?Gee,I wish I had one of those.
I think there is an inherent problem with “volume†as I tried to point out. What you link me to I have seen before. Also I erred with a tank 9x as big because I did not account for the C molecules in gas.
Not as a fuel.
A way to create chemically pure water from brackish water, that may have a considerable amount of pollutants as well.
The energy imput probably would exceed whatever energy was released by the recombustion of the hydrogen with the oxygen (entropy, you know), but the water vapor generated by the reuniting of the hydrogen with the oxygen is probably at least as efficient as distilling water for purification purposes.
The radio waves sound pretty similar to some highly active microwaves, and we are all familiar with microwave ovens, which act directly on the moisture in foodstuffs, and is the actual means by which the food is cooked.
So this is essentially a further extension of the physics of a microwave oven.
And I am something of a fan of Sterling-cycle engines.
I remember a few yrs back up Northern California.Evening News some guy had his whole house running on a car battery connected to some weird device that provided energy for the whole house and charged the car battery at the same time. free energy continuously. first and last time heard of him. me thinks Big Electricity snatched up the patents and buried them so deep they reached the earth’s core.
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