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1 posted on 06/16/2007 1:07:47 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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Well... socialism certainly hasn’t died; it’s alive and well and living right here in the USA. And communism, one of the worst and most tyrannical afflictions ever visited upon humanity by the sheerest variety of idiocy, is also maintaining its longevity around the globe.


2 posted on 06/16/2007 1:40:18 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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“The yellow metal is constant in true value, a monetary version of the fixed North Star.”

I don’t buy it. The “yellow metal” is also subject to the rules of economic supply and demand. If a huge supply was suddenly found in some mountain that was easy to retrieve the “true” value would drop, not stay constant. Likewise if industry suddenly had no demand for gold for making things the “true” value of gold would also drop.

The picture is much more complicated than the author’s statement.

3 posted on 06/16/2007 1:51:32 AM PDT by DB
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To: bruinbirdman; nickcarraway; ShadowAce
Moore's Law says that the real price of computing power decreases 50% every 18 months. That's productivity, not deflation productivity potential, not productivity realized and there is a profound difference.
4 posted on 06/16/2007 2:21:53 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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“political mischief in the form of protectionism....”


Mr. Forbes makes some great points but the premise that a strong pro-domestic trade/tariff bias is ‘mischief’ is what gets us:

* State Department Lenovo computers that are rejected for possible bugs

* cheap imported foodstuffs and food supplements and toothpaste with harmful contents

* reduced capacity for rapid war footing if necessary

* outsourced jobs and internal layoffs that cost a fortune in human misery here—while subsidizing slave wages and profound human misery in Third World countries.

* and so on and so on.


5 posted on 06/16/2007 2:33:03 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: bruinbirdman
Since Ronald Reagan became President in 1981, for example, the U.S. has had a fantastic expansion, and inflation virtually disappeared until recently.

The Inflation Calculator

The Inflation Calculator


What cost $1.00 in 1981 would cost $2.36 in 2006.

Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2006 and 1981,
they would cost you $1.00 and $0.42 respectively.


10 posted on 06/16/2007 3:30:17 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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The USD is a terrible investment. I use it as a measurement of inflation. Investment goods I bought two years ago have gone up about 25%, as indicated by sales I made the past few weeks. But the FED tells us inflation is only 2, maybe 3%.

The Fed has their measuring tools, but I prefer mine - the USD.


13 posted on 06/16/2007 5:27:19 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: bruinbirdman
The yellow metal is constant in true value, a monetary version of the fixed North Star.


14 posted on 06/16/2007 5:41:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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Listen to Hillary Clinton and you will find Marxism alive and well.


18 posted on 06/16/2007 6:21:39 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Socialism can never be as successful economic system as one based on liberty. Socialism is based on three violations of the Ten Commandments: lies, coveting and theft.


19 posted on 06/16/2007 6:38:26 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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When ticket prices for a hot rock concert soar, that’s not inflation, it’s demand. However, when the cost of living in the U.S. and elsewhere sharply rose in the 1970s, it was, as the late Milton Friedman never tired of pointing out, the result of excess money creation. Central bankers finally began to grasp that inflation was indeed a monetary phenomenon, but the lesson still hasn’t stuck.
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But this begs a moral question that goes to the heart of the fiat money/central-banking system: where does wealth come from, and whose money is it?

Government, as Friedman also pointed out, does not have any money of its own to spend. Friedman said that taxes are not as important as spending when it comes to controlling the size of government simply because government must get the money it spends from somewhere. It can either print it, borrow it, or get it via taxation.

When government printed money that was “backed” by gold or silver, the money served as a substitute. The US paper currency used to be Silver Certificates. A holder could go to a bank and exchange the paper for the same value in silver. The paper currency was a kind of warehouse receipt.

At one time, the value of the dollar was coded into law at 1/20th of an ounce of gold. In 1933 it was devalued to be 1/35th of an ounce of gold and private citizens were forced to exchange their real gold for paper money from the Federal Reserve, a private corporation.

But the key point is that government must get the gold and silver through legal taxation in order to have it to devote to the monetary system.

But today, our money is no longer based on gold or silver. It is just based on supply and demand. And what happens when government prints money based on nothing? It is “borrowed into circulation”.

This is a very sophisticated form of theft from citizens.

When the founders of Google created $150 billion in new wealth, the Federal Reserve says the economy “expanded” by that amount, which is a small percentage of the total. Under the theory that they must keep the money supply expanding in parallel with the expanding economy, they will have to “borrow into circulation” a certain billion of dollars to grow the money supply by that same percent.

The money was created simply by notational entries in a computer ledger, so the money cost the government nothing, yet it will be used to buy real goods and services. When this money comes into circulation, it does in effect, compete with the existing money to bid up prices.

In short, private wealth is being taken from every holder of dollars when the economy is expanded when these same individuals work and produce new wealth. This is theft by government. It manifests itself in the way that prices behave and in the steady erosion of the purchasing power of the dollar. We can see it most easily in the price of real assets such as oil, gasoline and gold.

Central Bankers know full well what they are doing. Government itself is addicted to this system because of the rivers of money that it brings in to be spent and controlled, and the debt it makes it so easy to accumulate and seemingly never to have to repay. Every country on earth uses this system. If fear it will be all but impossible to wean any government from it.

20 posted on 06/16/2007 7:00:40 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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No economic, historical, literary, or political idea ever dies. It gets a fresh coat of paint now and then.


25 posted on 06/16/2007 9:32:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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