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Bush administration again lies about border security: Debra Burlingame
9/11 Families for America ^ | June 16, 2006 | Tim Sumner

Posted on 06/16/2007 10:41:59 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim

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To: nicmarlo
"Meanwhile, I had someone very high up in this administration tell me when I asked him, point blank … this before I was able to read the whole thing because they snuck this in and wanted to get it passed in 48 hours without anyone reading it … will this bill have authority for state and local law enforcement to enforce these laws... “Absolutely,” said this member of the Bush administration. Three days later, when all those amendments were being poured out on to the floor of the Senate, out came an amendment giving state and local law enforcement the ability with probable cause to scrutinize the legal presence of a suspect if they have probable cause to believe a person is here illegally. That was roundly voted down. So this person was not only not telling me the truth, when someone tried to put it in there, it was voted out."

LOL! It's all a mis-understaaaaaanding. You see, when the administration spokesmouth said LEAs could enforce "these laws," they meant that LEAs could enforce the new laws and regulations that would be promulgated upon the passage of the bill itself, meaning, they could enforce the non-investigation of suspects who they have reason to believe are illegals. So, for instance, if a local LEA tries to investigate the status of a non-English-speaker who was arrested for some random offense, the state or fed LEAs would "enforce the law," by going after the local LEA for violating the law. Very simple, don't you see? There are enforcement provisions. Just not the ones you want.

PS I can't claim to care a lot either way about this whole issue in particular. But it does drive me crazy when people in government aren't honest and straight with the rest of us. You would think if they had any actually good arguments for the bill they're pushing, they would have mentioned them by now. Instead all they do is hurl abuse and spread lies. That tells me a lot about them right there.
101 posted on 06/16/2007 9:42:04 PM PDT by omnivore
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To: Sergeant Tim

What is scarier more than anything is if they are caught up to doing harm they will be tried in the court system and not as combatants


102 posted on 06/16/2007 9:49:29 PM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigne!)
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To: omnivore
So, for instance, if a local LEA tries to investigate the status of a non-English-speaker who was arrested for some random offense, the state or fed LEAs would "enforce the law," by going after the local LEA for violating the law. Very simple, don't you see?

Yeah...it's as clear as mud. It's a whole lot of twisting and turning for appearances....which is nothing more than bald deceit.

PS I can't claim to care a lot either way about this whole issue in particular. But it does drive me crazy when people in government aren't honest and straight with the rest of us. You would think if they had any actually good arguments for the bill they're pushing, they would have mentioned them by now. Instead all they do is hurl abuse and spread lies. That tells me a lot about them right there.

Well, I do care about this issue. I suppose there wouldn't be the "concern" if they were the upfront, honest, lawmakers they were hired to be, and paid to be, working for US citizens....as you said...instead, they have nothing but contempt for those who pay their salaries and they give themselves perks and benefits by taking our money...and then spit on us.

103 posted on 06/16/2007 10:18:53 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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I believe the WND article was a factful compendium of various facts and figures tossed about by the few honorable reporters left at the LA Times.

When a fact is put forth to a left-wing editor as inconspicuously as possible, it will escape him as most left-wing editors are nitwits.

Had we time on our hands I'm certain that an exhaustive search would reveal exactly those facts.

104 posted on 06/17/2007 4:36:50 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Sergeant Tim

W is in a match race with Dingy Harry - first one to an approval rating of zero wins.


105 posted on 06/17/2007 6:57:29 AM PDT by sono ("The only thing that's not green anymore is envy." Dennis Miller)
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