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jedward ^ | 6-16-2007 | jedward

Posted on 06/16/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by jedward

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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Not at all. There were several freepers, brothers in the cause, who asked serious questions about the post because they just couldn’t figure out what he was trying to say — and his response was to ridicule them, belittle them, and be evasive.

None of which are good ways of communicating effectively with those who are trying to learn something from you.

I presume he wants to get his message out as clearly as possible, and he failed to do so.


221 posted on 06/17/2007 5:51:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Mad Dawgg

“the poster of the article majored in inductive reasoning and graduated with honors.”

Now there’s something we all can agree on.


222 posted on 06/17/2007 6:11:14 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: kabar

Makes sense to you but not to me. If you look at the countries listed, you will also notice that it includes background notes and the name of our ambassador, which is linked to a bio. We don't have a US ambassador to the US. We don't have foreign relations with ourselves. It appears you don't understand the role of the State Department in our government. The basic Mission Statement is: Create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community.

I understand the role of the State Department, and I am learning just how resistant to suggestions at least one of its employees is. Proposing the addition of our country to "The Country Pages A to Z" seems consistent with the Department's mission statement, and would help people around the world learn more about out country -- something that the State Department clearly sees as a part of its mission, since the same website includes numerous links to content about the United States, like the link to "USAGov: Travel, Transportation, and Recreation".

I'm sure the site editors could figure out what content was appropriate for the country page for the USA. Instead of a listing for the ambassador you might have the name of our president with a link to a related web site. Or just leave that entry blank -- the readers of the site would surely know why it was empty. All the general information on population, economy, etc. could come straight from other government web sites.

223 posted on 06/17/2007 7:04:51 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
You know, I'm seeing more clearly what Alex Jones' business model is predicated on.

I wouldn't say it was "fear and ignorance" either; there has got to be a better, more encompassing word (or words) for it, 'populism' in the truest sense maybe?

224 posted on 06/17/2007 7:40:14 PM PDT by _Jim (Highly recommended book on the Kennedy assassination - Posner: "Case Closed")
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To: _Jim

Help me understand your posts. They seem to have a theme behind them. What’s on your mind regarding the Article?


225 posted on 06/17/2007 7:59:31 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

The one I was most hostile with was someone who initially would not answer my questions and clearly did not read the Article, as evidenced by their sending me multiple links that were available within the Article itself.

Just to note HAL9000’s question. If you read what you copied, my answer to his question is indeed included, right after his question.

“I was just pointing out that your responses seemed designed to be ridiculing rather than informative.”

I perceived a handful of the questions/statements to be the same. Not a big deal, it’s just perceptions. Some of them may have been mis-perceptions.


226 posted on 06/17/2007 8:10:45 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Incorrigible
Funny, you never hear anybody yelling "Screw The U.S. and the Organization of American States!!"

It's almost always "Screw the United States!!"

227 posted on 06/17/2007 8:17:07 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; HAL9000; All

“I think you are trying to make a point, not trying to find something. And I think the responses others have will inform you as to whether you succeeded in making a point.”

That would be correct in the sense of I was informing or “pointing out” information. I had concluded in the Article that what I was looking for was not there, and I never suggested that I was still looking for anything, though some were offering good information (like HAL9000) and politely said thanks. Apologies to any other sincere posters offering information. I was still dealing with the not so civil and rude drive-by flamers who weren’t reading anything.


228 posted on 06/17/2007 8:20:22 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“I presume he wants to get his message out as clearly as possible, and he failed to do so.”

Sometimes clear messages don’t create dialogue. As a couple of posters noted who read the entire article all the way through, the message was indeed very clear, to them at least.


229 posted on 06/17/2007 8:24:42 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Dora The Undocumented Exlora’


230 posted on 06/17/2007 8:32:29 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: kabar; jedward
Ok, still waiting to hear how the state department can approve adhereance to the charter and principles of an internationalist organzation, without ever mentioning or defending our Constitution or Bill of Rights as a proper form for government to follow in the 'Americas'.

But here's were it gets worse. To end run around the US Constitution and the duly elected Congress, the state department sets up funds ( US taxpayer dollars) and then arranges for them to be distributed by 'business interests' and 'internationalist politicians' from the OAS. This is ABSOLUTELY contrary to how our constitutional government is supposed to operate, and it is how our tax money is being LOOTED from the American people with NO OVERSIGHT by elected representative.

So in this example, the state department representatives work with the OAS to set up United States Fund "to search for and develop new mechanisms for inter-American cooperation in Latin America and the Caribbean in the areas of training, research, information and mobilization of resources from the private sector.".

One of their charges is to Strengthen the capacity of The Trust for the Americas to serve the OAS as an entry point for alternative sources of funding and as a forum to maximize partnership possibilities among private, governmental and academic institutions.

The Trust for the Americas
As a not for profit affiliate of the Organization of American States, the Trust is able to develop and execute targeted development programs that can quickly respond to the emerging needs of OAS member states.

Ultimately, through our state department representatives, tax money goes to a 'trust' run by the wealthiest corporate executives in the world, who get to decide how American tax money is to be spent to further THEIR OWN INTERESTS. This, is utterly corrupt. Do you see why Americans know their state department is corrupt and anti-american? If you don't yet, I can help you with a few definitions-- like corporatist fascism for starters.
231 posted on 06/17/2007 10:50:08 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Excellent post.

It looks to me like America has been "fatted" and now its time for the gutting of wealth.

232 posted on 06/18/2007 12:06:51 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: processing please hold
If you're living in another country and came on the SD web site to learn about the US then you're s#!t outta luck, wouldn't you say?

I'm sure there are plenty of sites that someone can go to in order to learn about the U.S.

Would people from a foreign country even think about going to the Dept of State website to find out about the U.S.? Maybe, but they'd probably just 'google'.

233 posted on 06/18/2007 7:21:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
I'm sure there are plenty of sites that someone can go to in order to learn about the U.S.

You missed the point.

234 posted on 06/18/2007 7:30:42 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Has anyone ever confirmed whether Dora the Explorer is an Illegal? :0)

I have teased my wife about that many times.

Last week I asked her when they're going to have the "Dora Flees From La Migra" episode.

235 posted on 06/18/2007 7:34:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: processing please hold
You missed the point.

Nah, I got it. I just don't think it's worth making a mountain out of a mole hill.

236 posted on 06/18/2007 8:06:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: processing please hold

And we wonder why politicians get the feeling they can do anything they want without being held accountable. Keep in mind, the posters here with us are indeed active enough that they’re posting on this Forum. They are likely part of the small percentage that turn out to vote as well.

Too far gone? If so, it’s at least nice to know why.


237 posted on 06/18/2007 8:17:06 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

“when it’s uncovered...”

All of the links worked just fine when I did the article, so what’s to uncover? The truely ironic part is that it’s right in front of people, hidden in plain sight I guess.

The only thing I had a hard time finding was the United States. Nothing else was covered, it’s all linked right there at the site.


238 posted on 06/18/2007 9:51:09 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: MEGoody
I just don't think it's worth making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Many don't believe it's a mountain out of a mole hill.

239 posted on 06/18/2007 10:05:02 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: jedward
Too far gone?

Not yet. But it's getting close.

If so, it’s at least nice to know why.

Never give up, never surrender.

240 posted on 06/18/2007 10:07:24 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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