[i_dont_chat]

Important paragraph:

Bush also pulled a bait-and-switch. He always spoke of amnesty as something that would be extended to illegal aliens who’ve been here a long time and paid their back taxes. But the bill he supports gives amnesty to people who crashed the border as recently as six months ago, and it drops the part about back taxes.

[Cyropaedia]

The dropping of back to taxes was due to DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff. That was his idea. Even Kennedy's draft of the bill had a provision for the payment back taxes to the IRS. But weighed in during negotiations on Capitol Hill and insisted that it would be too much trouble and "time consuming".

The word coming out of Congress now is that even the touch back "Z" visa requirement will probably be dropped because too many illegals will not actually comply with that specific provision. Just wonderful.

[GailA]

Nothing has been said about the increased property taxes we are going to have to pay for new schools, teachers, cops, jails etc. or the strain on our already over burdened not for profit hospitals, that will be needed when they bring their millions of ‘extended families into the USA.

[Texas Songwriter]

To everyone,....when you call your senators and congressmen, please be aware that they use Washington-speak. They will say they are against AMNESTY. Make them define amnesty. It may well not be the same as yours (that meaning, not the one normal people use as a working definition all over the world.) They are mostly liars and deceivers and, like Trent Lott, do not want any sort of participation from the plebians. Call every one of the people on exactly what they mean when answering your questions.

[philman_36]

Important paragraph:
Bush also pulled a bait-and-switch.
No, this is the important part...
Have Congress pass the part of the bill that would force employers to check all new hires’ eligibility to work in the United States with a database (and fine those who don’t).
While I don't have all of the necessary links ready at this moment my preliminary take of the proposed legislation is that the EEVS will not be for just new hires. ALL Americans will have to be checked out, not just "new hires". That is the bait and switch. And it won't matter how long you've been employed at your current job either. Everybody will have to be run through the system.
If that weren't so then how else could those with fake IDs be checked? They're currently employed yet the impetus is to find out which employers are hiring illegals or already have them on the payroll. The only way this can be done successfully is if ALL workers are checked, not just "new hires".

[Kozak]

It’s far worse then that. The z visa can be had with documentation as flimsy as a signed affidavit from 2 non family members. How would that be to fake? You could walk the border TODAY and get your “Z” ticket.