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On The Brink Of Artificial Life
business week ^ | 6/25/07 | NEWS & INSIGHTS

Posted on 06/17/2007 6:37:25 PM PDT by Flavius

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To: Prokopton

Ha,ha,funny you should mention Mexicans.Judging by the numbers that are flooding over the border,I wonder if Mr.Venter has been plying his trade south of the border for a while now !!!


21 posted on 06/17/2007 7:05:19 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: CyberAnt

Look, God came up with quantum effects ~ and revealed them to us. Right?


22 posted on 06/17/2007 7:06:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mkjessup
Cheese whiz, guys, in order to create life one must define life and if you define life narrowly, crystalline growth is life and that is akin to what this fellow thinks he has created. Geez!
23 posted on 06/17/2007 7:18:06 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: Ramius

No .. if you check out the Bible .. He destroyed the Tower of Babel .. giving all the people different languages.


24 posted on 06/17/2007 7:24:27 PM PDT by CyberAnt (What is it about "ILLEGAL" that people don't understand ..??)
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To: muawiyah

So .. are you concluding He meant for us to discover how to create humans ..?? I don’t. But you can believe what you want.


25 posted on 06/17/2007 7:25:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt (What is it about "ILLEGAL" that people don't understand ..??)
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To: the final gentleman

He thinks he’s developed something quite a bit beyond crystalline growth.


26 posted on 06/17/2007 7:34:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Flavius

If this happens, it’s PROOF of “INTELLIGENT DESIGN.”


27 posted on 06/17/2007 7:35:59 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: AndrewB

With Parallels and Bootcamp... I am BOTH !


28 posted on 06/17/2007 7:37:11 PM PDT by RachelFaith
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To: Flavius

Funny, God creates life, doesn’t patent it, yet states that He is the author of life, and hardly anyone praises Him for it.

Yet man comes along, takes the building blocks of life, rearranges them, claims to have created life, and patents it.

God is truly impressed.


29 posted on 06/17/2007 7:50:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: muawiyah
Well muawiyah, what is the next stage beyond crystalline growth...original genetic coding?

Now that would be be fantastic, otherwise what this guy hopes to do is to accomplish genetic modification, hardly revolutionary.

30 posted on 06/17/2007 7:55:27 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: the final gentleman

I will await his patent application.


31 posted on 06/17/2007 7:57:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Venter proposed doing this (building an artificial lifeform) so that we could begin plugging in viruses found in the oceans to see what they do.

Yet people worry about global warming? Now this is something to really worthy of worry.

32 posted on 06/17/2007 8:06:03 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Flavius
artificial organism

What do they mean on the brink, I saw somebody named paris on TV and she looked artificial as hell.

34 posted on 06/17/2007 8:11:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Flavius
"There's a nasty little bug evolved in the last few years. Our aseptic, sterilized civilizations produced it. Synthococcus novae.. It's deadly. We can immunize against it, but haven't learned to lick all the problems yet."

— LTCDR Leonard McCoy, M.D.
Chief Medical Officer, USS ENTERPRISE (NCC-1701)

35 posted on 06/17/2007 8:11:41 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: GoMeanGreen

Microbes are not ‘life’ in a biblical sense any more than plants are. (’Life’ in the Bible is characterized by breathing and blood, and plants are never identified as ‘living’ or ‘dying’.) Microbes have been described as a kind of ‘organosubstrate’ that help maintain and supply the biosphere (in their original created context, apart from degeneration into parasites and pathogens).

I rather expect this guy is not creating genes from scratch, such that his ‘creation’ of a microbe is more like a child putting together lego blocks (genes). Just as a child is hopelessly incompetent to manufacture a lego block from scratch, we are still a long way from making a full-fledged, meaningful gene from scratch (atom by atom). We mostly just play around with the ones God has given us.

That said, there is the law of unintended consequences. Making wholesale alterations in a genome could have cascading effects throughout the biosphere that the authors never intended. If scientists can patent their creations for profit, will they also be held responsible for the damage they cause?


36 posted on 06/17/2007 8:19:32 PM PDT by Liberty1970
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To: BuffaloJack
but what would be its purpose on earth other than to satisfy the vanity of a scientist?

Perhaps if you read the article it would be clear to you that there is a huge range of "purposes" which custom-made organisms could serve. E.g. "make fuels such as ethanol or hydrogen . . . turn coal or oil below the earth's surface into cleaner fuel . . . clean up pollution . . . flash when they detect explosives". And no doubt some will eventually be developed for medical purposes. Medical researchers are already using viruses to carry substances into cells where they're needed; custom-designed viruses might do this much more efficiently.

37 posted on 06/17/2007 8:28:46 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: gcruse

I do not know if many people can value life less. So many are aborted for convenience or sent to be human bombs.

As for creating life from scratch, my wife and I did that twice. One is 2 1/2 years old, and the next will come out this week.

Personally, I prefer the way we created life from “scratch” (Though I thought it was called ‘sex’) over the laboratory method.

On a serious note. Say one day we create multi-cellular organisms. Say these become capable of actions and can receive stimuli input (adaptation/sensory input). Say they CAN do work. Now we have created a new species. Future society may believe they are gods for they create.

The question becomes, how will we treat our creations, these synthetic lifeforms? Will we, like our Creator, imbue them with free will and freedom? Or will we have separated ourselves from morals and values to the point where these lifeforms are slaves and disposable? If, in playing God, will we become the Devil?

Probably not a question that will affect our lives, but one for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren. We will help set the tone for debating that question today.

This is the question for our time: What is science unbound by morality?


38 posted on 06/17/2007 8:30:33 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: Flavius

Oh, I thought it was a Hillary thread...


39 posted on 06/17/2007 8:32:38 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Flavius

"Life finds a way."

40 posted on 06/17/2007 8:38:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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