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Why I believe in Creation
Worlnetdaily ^ | 12/17/2004 | joe farah

Posted on 06/17/2007 6:54:37 PM PDT by Rodney King

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To: Coyoteman

“For a hypothesis to rise to the level of theory, it must predict the existence of new phenomena that are subsequently observed.”

Used to be that a hypothesis couldn’t rise to the level of theory unless it was testable and falsifiable.

Are those requirements part of your definition?


181 posted on 06/18/2007 8:16:31 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
Used to be that a hypothesis couldn’t rise to the level of theory unless it was testable and falsifiable.

Are those requirements part of your definition?

See my FR home page for the full list of definitions. Let me know of any suggestions or corrections.

182 posted on 06/18/2007 8:18:35 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: quiverfull
Perhaps you could dictate a moral law then . . .

Ok. How about:

Thou shalt not slaughter infants and newborns wholesale, even if you think their parents deserve killing.

Slavery is bad. Period.

How you cut your hair is your business.

It's actually a pretty good idea to sow your fields with different types of grain if you want to maintain crop productivity.

Mules aren't evil, mule breeders aren't sinners, and for crying out loud, put down the damn stones.

183 posted on 06/18/2007 8:19:07 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: BuckeyeForever

“Only an idiot believes this nonsense”

Well that is pretty insulting. Considering that I have clearly stated that I would fall into that category.
I do understand the evidence supporting the theory of evolution, and it is overwhelming. This is why I believe in evolution, because the evidence supports it.

I also believe in God, and Jesus, and sin and everything you see as idiotic. I don’t believe in a literal translation of the Bible. When I read the Bible, I understand the message to be true, and Bible stories to be a way of explaining a complicated thing, so that even the most uneducated can understand it. Simple stories to illustrate simple truths (ie. the existence and power of God) If this isn’t for you, I won’t try to convince you otherwise.

Personally, I know that God exists, because he is always present in my life. I have been in some pretty bad places and had some tough times. God has never let me down. I have always gotten what I truly needed, although I didn’t always recognize it at the time.

Although, I am deeply religious, I have always seen the value in science and am amazed by the progress science creates in our lives. IMO science can only contradict religion, never God. (Religion is man’s very flawed attempt to understand God.)

(By the way, your understanding of original sin isn’t entirely correct. Original sin is washed away during baptism. Original sin is the root of all evil and sin in the world. Christians as well as others sin constantly, in almost everything they do. It is part of free will. This is why we need redemption.)

I have attempted to explain my beliefs as clearly as possible. You are entitled to your beliefs, and I hope that you will understand that I am entitled to mine. But, it never hurts to learn what others believe.


184 posted on 06/18/2007 8:19:10 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Alter Kaker

“To the creationists, it is beyond the scope of their imagination that God could possibly have allowed natural selection to take place. That a mechanism so powerful, so beautiful and yet so simple exists just might testify to the existence of God seems beyond them. Open your eyes, look at the world around you, look critically, study science and there you will see the works of God.”

What a great paragraph. You said so easily, what I have struggled to put into words for a long time. Thank you.


185 posted on 06/18/2007 8:22:31 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Coyoteman

I looked at the exapnded definition on your page and I think it includes the basic principle I was looking for.


186 posted on 06/18/2007 8:33:29 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Cedric
False equivalency.

Why?

187 posted on 06/18/2007 8:35:07 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: Cedric
Did you hear about the explosion in a junk yard which resulted in a perfectly constructed Boeing 747?

Did you hear about the junkyard filled with self-replicating cellular junk?

188 posted on 06/18/2007 8:37:51 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: doc30

Don’t know. UCLA Don’t know.
And as a side note it is not my place to defend him, what I relating is that he is a scientist and believes in creation, like many others.


189 posted on 06/18/2007 8:41:19 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: sentis1

I disagree with your interpretation, but hey thats what makes the world go round. At least I think the world goes round.


190 posted on 06/18/2007 8:43:02 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Coyoteman

Evidence for what?


191 posted on 06/18/2007 8:43:23 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Rodney King

What a complete whackjob. It’s not often you’ll see somebody straight out state their ignorance so boldly and in fact be proud of it. In one fell swoop, this guy’s given a half-decade’s worth of ammunition to the other side.


192 posted on 06/18/2007 8:48:37 AM PDT by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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To: Rodney King
'Well, it’s a theory, it is a scientific theory only, and it has in recent years been challenged in the world of science and is not yet believed in the scientific community to be as infallible as it once was believed. But if it was going to be taught in the schools, then I think that also the biblical theory of creation, which is not a theory, but the biblical story of creation, should also be taught.'
Ronald W. Reagan, 1980

I'll side with Reagan, Christ and God.

193 posted on 06/18/2007 8:50:01 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: El Cid
his unwavering belief didn't stop men such as Isaac Newton, Johan Kepler, Louis Pasteur, JC Maxwell, etc., from engaging in real science. These men understood God was the Creator and Master of the Universe, and the purpose of Science was to learn about various aspects of the Creator's work

Yes, but unfortunetly it is causing many today to deny science.

194 posted on 06/18/2007 8:56:36 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Why do creationists reject the possibility that God would would have used an explainable process to permit his creations to adapt to a dynamic environment?

The confounding argument to evolutionists has to do with endangered species. Creationists would have you accept that man is just another evolved species and that 99.99% of all species that ever existed are now extinct because of the inability to either adapt to changes in their environment or inability to compete with other species. Therefore if a whale and a spotted owl cannot compete with humans - screw them, they are supposed to become extinct.

195 posted on 06/18/2007 8:58:24 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: sentis1

After perusing through many of your posts to other posters I have come to the (flawed, as I am sure you will see it) opinion, that your attitude is one of superiority.
If I do not believe what you are saying - I am (pick one) stupid, ignorant, mind numb robot, whatever of scientific fact and knowledge.
You dismiss scientists that support and can argue for creation over the theory of evolution. Your theology is flawed when trying to explain that the Old Testament is “just a story”, as some how preached by Jesus.
So since you do have flawed Theology, I have decided to dismiss you and your arguments on the theory of evolution.


196 posted on 06/18/2007 9:01:09 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Natural Law
Why do creationists reject the possibility that God would would have used an explainable process to permit his creations to adapt to a dynamic environment?

Because our understanding of science and nature is ever changing. People don't want an ever changing understanding of God. They want to yell "Stop! This is God. We know everything we need to know about Him."

197 posted on 06/18/2007 9:02:09 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: 4CJ

God, Christ then Reagan.


198 posted on 06/18/2007 9:02:13 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: BuckeyeForever

Your post is an excellent example of how the discussion of creationism/evolution has devolved. Instead of approaching this reasonably, scientifically, you mock God. And that is the crux of the entire issue — your rejection of creationism/ID (and embracing of evolution) is the result of your antipathy toward God, and not because of any factual/scientific reasons.

Thank you for illustrating my argument. I pray that you soon see the foolishness of hating your Creator, a Creator who has made a way for you to become reconciled with Him.


199 posted on 06/18/2007 9:02:32 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: BigTom85
You DON'T have to reject science in order to accept God

Non sequitur. I embrace both. God invented "all this," and so He conceived of "science" in the first place. It's a wonderful tool to explore His creation.

... some species may evolve over a decade if they have to

For example?

200 posted on 06/18/2007 9:16:02 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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