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To: GodGunsGuts
You might want to do a little research before embarrassing yourself by making comments about things you obviously don’t understand (such as the Bible/science).

I'm not a theologian and have never claimed to be one. But I do take my religion seriously, and I do have more than a passing familiarity with "science," having been a scientist for longer than I suspect most posters on this site have been alive.

If you honestly believe that nothing is too hard for God, then why won’t you take Him at his WORD! He saw fit to inform us that he created the plants and animals fully formed and fully functional.

You should read some commentaries on Genesis to better understand why your position is ill-informed and, with all due respect, a bit facile. Genesis was never intended as a literal, step-by-step cookbook recipe for Creation. In fact, when read that way, you find many problems, not just with science, but internally and with other books of the Tanach. Instead, Genesis is allegory, representing first and foremost God's responsibility for Creation, His primacy, His special bond with mankind, and His covenant. Now I could argue this all day with you, but, as you have correctly surmised, I am not a theologian. Instead, I'd like to refer you to commentaries on Genesis by the great biblical scholars, many (if not most) of whom seem to have reached the same conclusion hundreds of years before Darwin was a glint in his mother's eye. Nachmanides, Maimonides, and even Augustine recognized the literal problems and the allegorical potentials of Genesis. You should argue with them, not with me. I'm sure you'll consider yourself up to the challenge.

Are you calling God a liar?

Again, this is simple silliness. If anybody is calling God a liar, it's those on your side of the aisle who think that the Lord created the universe with a dishonest appearance of great age, even though you say it's only 6000 years old. Why would God wish to deceive us by creating microwave background radiation? Why does He want us to think the universe is 13.7 billion years old if it isn't?

207 posted on 06/18/2007 10:09:17 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
...dishonest appearance...???

Are you aware that you are making an assumption or series of assumptions yourself and this is the foundation upon which you are basing your accusation of dishonesty toward God?

Have you thought your assumption through enough to justify your brash charge of dishonesty?

Some things are impossible to know using the finite tools of science. For many things science works wonderfully and has made our lives better and more comfortable, but, like it or not, it does have definite limitations when it comes to certain areas of reality.

Areas such as one time historical events that cannot be directly tested.

Areas like the Virgin Birth of Christ, that is areas where God intervenes in any manner.

If you are denying the Virgin Birth or the supernatural then that is your choice, but I doubt you would go so far as to claim the Bible does not teach these things as fact.

238 posted on 06/18/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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