Posted on 06/17/2007 7:19:24 PM PDT by WOSG
AmericaOne
Here is the thread you suggested...
Now lets get all the contact and “WARROOM” info collated.
THIS IS THE PRO-AMNESTY TEAMS GAME PLAN - THIS WEEK IS CRITICAL:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmJiMzVmZTZjNjE2ZWM4MDhiMWYzYTI3NjQ1ZjU4NmE=
Here is what we expect to happen next week, though it is far from clear yet. In short, we expect it to come up this week, and if Senators (as we expect) object to unanimous consent agreements, it will take the better part of 6-8 days to get this done. They will not get it done this week (but Reid threatens to stay in next weekend).
1. We expect Reid, in conjunction with support from McConnell, Lott and Grand Bargainers Kyl, Martinez, Graham and McCain, to introduce a brand new piece of legislation - and use Rule 14 to put the bill immediately on the Senate calendar without going thru committee - which of course, the first bill did not do as well.
* It is possible that Reid will choose a different procedural path - but we expect the effect to be the same.
2. We expect that the new bill’s drafters (White House, Kennedy, Kyl, Graham, et. al.) will use close to the same language as the original substitute amendment (the first immigration bill) as amended by the 14 Democrat and 13 Republican amendments adopted the the first go round.
3. A new Rule 14 bill takes 1-2 days to ripen, and then we expect Reid to file cloture on the motion to proceed (a step he will need to take because numerous Senators are objecting to any unanimous consent agreements). The cloture motion takes time to ripen, so that adds a full day and change before the vote (60). Then, there is 30 hours of “post cloture debate” that a number of Senators will refuse to allow to be shortened.
4. When the 30 hours expire, Reid will have the vote on the motion to proceed to the bill (majority).
4. Once on the bill, Reid will again file cloture (to shut off debate - again, a number of Senators will continue to object to unanimous consent agreements) - this time on the bill itself.
5. The guessing begins at this point - but we expect Reid - with the help and support of certain Republican leadership and the Grand Bargainers - to do something that we believe has never been done in the history of the Senate... he will use an arcane Senate procedure that allows a single amendment to be divisible into many - in this case, into the 20-odd amendments the Grand Bargainers are trying to cobble together to keep 60 votes in support of the bill. Traditionally, that amendment has been used to protect minority rights - but in this case, it will be used to PREVENT the minority from getting additional amendments called up and from being able to fully debate the amendments in question. It is, to our knowledge, unprecedented.
6. Once the cloture motion ripens (again, another day and change), the cloture vote can occur (60 votes) and then, again, there is 30 hours of “post cloture debate” during which Reid will run, in order, through the panoply of amendments offered by way of the division.
7. Finally, there will be a vote on final passage.
If Reid does this, with the help of certain Republican leadership and the Grand Bargainers, they will shut off the ability of Senators with concerns of the bill to offer additional amendments and to debate the amendments in question.
In the end, this means that if they have 60 lined up to support it - there is little that can be done procedurally - so it has become far more important than ever for Senators to hear from their constituents.
McConnell says immigration is too close to call:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/17/AR2007061700609.html
“When we get to final passage, it’s hard to know whether the votes will be there to pass it or not,” McConnell said. “We’ll finish Senate consideration of the immigration bill one way or the other.”
From Numbers USA - Phoning and faxing made the difference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1851804/posts
“The following are the Senators whom we are feeling quite good about. You should find ways to thank them for being so sensitive to the needs of your state’s workers and communities and urge them to just fight harder to stop S. 1348.
(* in front of Senators up for re-election in 2008.)
The KILL BILL Caucus
DEMOCRATS (8) * Baucus (MT) Byrd (WV) Dorgan (ND) * Landrieu (LA) McCaskill (MO) Tester (MT) * Pryor (AR) * Rockefeller (WV)
REPUBLICANS (19) * Alexander (TN) * Allard (CO) Bond (MO) Bunning (KY) Coburn (OK) Corker (TN) * Cornyn (TX) Crapo (ID) DeMint (SC) * Dole (NC) * Enzi (WY) Grassley (IA) * Inhofe (OK) * Roberts (KS) * Sessions (AL) Shelby (AL) * Smith, G. (OR) Thune (SD) Vitter (LA)
A special hero’s garland should drape four Senators who have been absolutely courageous leaders in battling the power of the White House and of the Democratic Party Leadership — and taking incredible abuse from most of the elite national news media.
THE HEROIC LEADERS Sessions (R-Ala.) Dorgan (D-N.D.) DeMint (R-S.C.) Vitter (R-La.)
If all 98 Senators vote, we will need 39 NO votes on cloture to kill this bill.
Congratulations to all of you in the states of these 27 Senators. But we have to get 12 more for sure. Right now, I see 13 others who look like really good possibilities if their constituents can just give them the right message in sufficient quantity. And there are another half-dozen or so who are not out of the question. “
There is a disturbance in the force.
Count me in on this one, even though overseas at present.
El Presidente works tirelessly, and will not stop until our country is totally screwed! We must work twice as hard to persuade our lawmakers. I fear the senate is a lost cause, but I’m sure this monstrosity can be killed in the house.
God, I wish El Presidente would have put this much fight and effort into social security reform, among other things.
I was watching UNITED 93 last night, and I have not stopped crying and yelling in rage at my TV.
How dare these congress people allow our immigration to run amok .. how dare they scoff at us and tell us to shut up .. when they have already forgotten the people WHO DIED TO SAVE YOUR SORRY REAR ENDS.
They don’t deserve OUR VOTES or OUR MONEY .. and until they put America first and not the Mexican govt (and the democrats) .. they will get neither from me. And .. I’m not alone in this sentiment.
PING for “Kill Bill II: The Vampire Strikes Back (Fight the Senate Immigration Bill)”
More #s (courtest of 2ndDivVet and TennesseeNana):
A toll free number for any member of the US Senate or House...(888) 534-6226
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep
Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.
PING! Via Laura Ingraham ...
http://lauraingraham.com/
Below is the list of 15 GOP senators that the amnesty pushers want to flip to their side (asterisked senators are up for re-election in 2008)
* * Alexander (R-TN)
* Bennett (R-UT)
* * Cochran (R-MS)
* * Coleman (R-MN)
* * Collins (R-ME)
* * Cornyn (R-TX)
* * Craig (R-ID)
* * Domenici (R-NM)
* Gregg (R-NH)
* Hatch (R-UT)
* Hutchison (R-TX)
* Kyl (R-AZ)
* Lott (R-MS)
* * McConnell (R-KY)
* Murkowski (R-AK)
* * Smith (R-OR)
* Snowe (R-ME)
* Stevens (R-AK)
* * Warner (R-VA)
Illegal-Immigration Activism Ping...
A good source for the ‘skinny’ on the Vampire Strikes Back bill...
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/06/the_inside_story_on_whats_happ.php
“My source also noted that the cloture vote to end debate will be the “real” vote on the bill because if debate is closed off, the bill is sure to pass. Then, what will happen is that the votes for the bill will be counted, and a few Senators who are afraid that their election prospects will be jeopardized by a “yes” vote, will be allowed to vote against the bill. This enables those Senators to tell their constituents that they voted against the bill, but it will still allow them to collect campaign contributions from lobbyists who have a better understanding of how things work, and know that the bill couldn’t have been passed without their support. Put another way, they get to reap the rewards of supporting amnesty while telling the voters in their home states that they opposed the bill.
My source also let me know that the White House and the Senate leadership, and Trent Lott in particular, are pushing very hard for this bill.”
Thanks. Kill Bill II BUMP!
George: STIFLE!
Bttt!
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